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jafojtik

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Option Settings/ Images/ General/ Original permanently reverts
Posted: 6 Aug 26, 09:21
 
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It is extremely frustrating that this option silently turns off without any notification. And also without any obvious reason.

Please fix this bug.
RobM

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Re: Option Settings/Images/General/Original permanently reverts
Posted: 6 Aug 26, 09:40   in response to: jafojtik in response to: jafojtik
 
Have you saved the settings after making the change? Look for the change indicator at the bottom left. https://jalbum.net/help/en/jAlbum/Welcome#Change_indicator
JeffTucker

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Re: Option Settings/Images/General/Original permanently reverts
Posted: 6 Aug 26, 11:53   in response to: jafojtik in response to: jafojtik
 
When you start a new project, jAlbum uses your default settings. You have probably not saved any default settings, so every time you start a new project, it reverts to the system defaults.

https://jalbum.net/help/en/JAlbum/Menus#Save_as_default
JeffTucker

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Re: Option Settings/Images/General/Original permanently reverts
Posted: 6 Aug 26, 12:32   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
Found the problem. It's a bug in the FancyBox skin. When you choose that skin, the hints.jap file contains this line:
imageLinking=LinkScaled
That turns off the inclusion of original images.

You'll have to contact the skin developer to fix this.
jafojtik

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Re: Option Settings/Images/General/Original permanently reverts
Posted: 6 Aug 26, 14:19   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
Thank you very much for this discover.

When I switch to different project, Jalbum asks me to save options. Then I have restarted Jalbum and option is still set.

And the option after something unknown reverts without any warning.

PS: I have posted PM to AndreWolf

Edited by: jafojtik on 6 Aug 2026, 14:29
JeffTucker

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Re: Option Settings/Images/General/Original permanently reverts
Posted: 6 Aug 26, 14:26   in response to: jafojtik in response to: jafojtik
 
Choosing the FancyBox skin causes the Originals setting to be de-selected. It's a skin bug.

ETA: The Minimal skin has the same bug.
jafojtik

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Re: Option Settings/Images/General/Original permanently reverts
Posted: 6 Aug 26, 15:13   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
I have experimented with both styles and it explains why this option gets unexpectedly reverted.
JeffTucker

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Re: Option Settings/Images/General/Original permanently reverts
Posted: 6 Aug 26, 15:15   in response to: jafojtik in response to: jafojtik
 
You might also want to change the default preference settings for Use layout hints and Restore previous settings.

https://jalbum.net/help/en/jAlbum/Preferences#Projects

This is actually an area in which a number of skins try to be too "helpful." I need to scrub some of these choices from my own skins....

Edited by: RobM on 6 Aug 2026, 18:51
The section is under Projects, not Album.
JeffTucker

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Re: Option Settings/Images/General/Original permanently reverts
Posted: 6 Aug 26, 16:05   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
An interesting exercise. In my own skins, there were still a bunch of "layout hints" settings that are now just anachronisms - no longer needed, ineffective, or simply annoying. A bunch of skin updates coming....

A lot of these haven't been examined in years, because once you've saved some defaults, those override the skin's "hints." At the same time, skins now take more control over the settings that are truly required. Forbidden settings are disabled, and when the album build is kicked off, the internal engine settings are forcibly changed by the skin.

The hints.jap file probably shouldn't contain anything more than things like a default style (rather than the alphabetically first), and recommended image bounds. Using the same bounds, especially for thumbnails, in one skin as in another can often produce very unpleasing results.
jafojtik

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Re: Option Settings/Images/General/Original permanently reverts
Posted: 6 Aug 26, 18:34   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
AndreWolff wrote:
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So I have decided to erase line in skin skript:
imageLinking=LinkScaled

From that point the option for including originals did not reverted.

JeffTucker wrote:
The hints.jap file probably shouldn't contain anything more than things like a default style
(rather than the alphabetically first), and recommended image bounds. Using the same >bounds, especially for thumbnails, in one skin as in another can often produce very
unpleasing results.

https://jalbum.net/help/en/jAlbum/Preferences#Projects
Please write here a line about danger of modifying imageLinking variable for skin authors. Here it is not imageLinking even mentioned.

Edited by: jafojtik on 6 Aug 2026, 18:40

Edited by: RobM on 6 Aug 2026, 18:53
The section is Projects, not Album.

Edited by: JeffTucker on 7 Aug 2026, 04:17, to remove forbidden content
JeffTucker

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Re: Option Settings/Images/General/Original permanently reverts
Posted: 6 Aug 26, 18:42   in response to: jafojtik in response to: jafojtik
 
jafojtik wrote:
So I have decided to erase line in skin skript:
imageLinking=LinkScaled

That's the simple solution, and it works. The "inclusion" options will then stay at whatever you set them to. Loading another skin might do the same thing again, however. That preset should probably be removed from every active skin - I'll take care of getting it out of mine. I haven't checked them all, but it looks like Laza has already gotten rid of that setting his skins.
RobM

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Re: Option Settings/Images/General/Original permanently reverts
Posted: 6 Aug 26, 19:57   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
JeffTucker wrote:
jafojtik wrote:
So I have decided to erase line in skin skript:
imageLinking=LinkScaled

That's the simple solution, and it works. The "inclusion" options will then stay at whatever you set them to. Loading another skin might do the same thing again, however. That preset should probably be removed from every active skin - I'll take care of getting it out of mine. I haven't checked them all, but it looks like Laza has already gotten rid of that setting his skins.

But the change would need making every time the skin is updated, better to change the skin.
JeffTucker

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Re: Option Settings/Images/General/Original permanently reverts
Posted: 6 Aug 26, 20:46   in response to: RobM in response to: RobM
 
RobM wrote:
But the change would need making every time the skin is updated....

Only if the skin developer refuses to fix it. ;)

But in truth, the reason none of us noticed this is that, once you've settled on a favorite skin or two, and saved your settings as the default, and once you've made and saved your albums with your preferred settings, this ceases to be an issue. If you have defaults set, the hints.jap settings have no effect. And when you reopen a saved project, it doesn't have any effect, either. It's a problem only when you're in "tinker" mode. :)
jafojtik

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Re: Option Settings/Images/General/Original permanently reverts
Posted: 6 Aug 26, 21:49   in response to: RobM in response to: RobM
 
And please change/update your documentation for skin authors first.

I will not fall in a same trap again, I will remember that some options might revert.
JeffTucker

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Re: Option Settings/Images/General/Original permanently reverts
Posted: 6 Aug 26, 22:01   in response to: jafojtik in response to: jafojtik
 
jafojtik wrote:
And please change/update your documentation for skin authors first.

There are only three active developers - Laza, André, and me. RobM does some occasional development. In short, there isn't anyone who is now unaware of this.
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