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nigel-aves

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Album level thumbnails are still .JPG not .AVIF
Posted: 21 Jul 26, 02:58
 
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Keeping things straight. You can have all the settings to ensure that thumbnails and images are in AVIF format, but thumbnails generated at the Album level are still in JPG format. (Album-level thumbnails are correct.)

Not sure why this was missed, but on large albums that can make a big difference in disk usage.

And consistency in image format is a must, rather than mix and match! :)

Thank you ....
RobM

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Re: Album level thumbnails are still .JPG not .AVIF
Posted: 21 Jul 26, 20:58   in response to: nigel-aves in response to: nigel-aves
 
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I get AVIF thumbnails on my Mac, jAlbum 39.6.5 and jAlbum 39.7. Settings>Images>Output format>AVIF, No variants included. The only exception, using Tiger skin. is the shareimage.jpg, don't know why that one image has not been converted but that's for Laza as it is skin specific.

Edited by: RobM on 21 Jul 2026, 19:59
JeffTucker

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Re: Album level thumbnails are still .JPG not .AVIF
Posted: 21 Jul 26, 21:07   in response to: RobM in response to: RobM
 
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RobM wrote:
The only exception, using Tiger skin. is the shareimage.jpg, don't know why that one image has not been converted but that's for Laza as it is skin specific.

I suspect that's because that image is used for social media sharing, and FB probably demands JPG . You can upload AVIF images to FB, but it converts them to JPG. But an og:image link in the album may have to be JPG.
JeffTucker

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Re: Album level thumbnails are still .JPG not .AVIF
Posted: 21 Jul 26, 21:09   in response to: nigel-aves in response to: nigel-aves
 
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nigel-aves wrote:
...but thumbnails generated at the Album level are still in JPG format. (Album-level thumbnails are correct.)

As always, make sure you're not telling jAlbum to process only updated subdirectories when you change the output image format.
nigel-aves

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Re: Album level thumbnails are still .JPG not .AVIF
Posted: 21 Jul 26, 21:18   in response to: RobM in response to: RobM
 
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Windows 11 - jAlbum 39.6 - Java 23 64-bit. and on Tiger Skin 8.1.1. <<Sorry, should have included this upfront.

Rob,

Interesting. I also have:

Settings>Images>Output format>AVIF, No variants included.

Settings>Images>Advanced>Force AVIF thumbnails
Settings>Images>Advanced>Force AVIF images

BUT I have folderimage.AVIF & folderthumb.AVIF But shareimage.JPG

Edited by: nigel-aves on 21 Jul 2026, 13:31
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Re: Album level thumbnails are still .JPG not .AVIF
Posted: 21 Jul 26, 21:30   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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Jeff,

I've never changed that setting, especially after you had warned me about it!

Nigel.
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Re: Album level thumbnails are still .JPG not .AVIF
Posted: 21 Jul 26, 21:32   in response to: nigel-aves in response to: nigel-aves
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Just did a quick test, and Tiger is producing JPG folder thumbnails, no matter what settings I use.

I'll move this to the Tiger forum section, since it's a skin bug (for unknown reasons, Laza doesn't use the built-in folder thumbnail generator in the core, which doesn't make this mistake).
Laza

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Re: Album level thumbnails are still .JPG not .AVIF
Posted: 22 Jul 26, 14:31   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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That's odd. For me, it always generates AVIF's.

The share image is always in JPG format, in order to be accepted by the social sites.
JeffTucker

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Re: Album level thumbnails are still .JPG not .AVIF
Posted: 22 Jul 26, 14:38   in response to: Laza in response to: Laza
 
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A project with two folders. See screenshot.
nigel-aves

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Re: Album level thumbnails are still .JPG not .AVIF
Posted: 22 Jul 26, 17:06   in response to: Laza in response to: Laza
 
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Laza,

Are you on a Mac? RobM reports that on a Mac it works.

On a PC - See image!

Nigel.
JeffTucker

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Re: Album level thumbnails are still .JPG not .AVIF
Posted: 22 Jul 26, 17:11   in response to: nigel-aves in response to: nigel-aves
 
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I'm also on a Mac, and I get JPG folder thumbnails every time. I don't think RobM is looking in the right place - Tiger generates all sorts of images beyond the usual thumbnails and slides, many with misleading names. But the actual folder thumbnails are, indeed, where you're seeing them - in album > thumbs > folder.
nigel-aves

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Re: Album level thumbnails are still .JPG not .AVIF
Posted: 22 Jul 26, 17:14   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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Jeff,

Thanks for sorting that out. I thought you were on a PC, my bad!

Nigel;.
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Re: Album level thumbnails are still .JPG not .AVIF
Posted: 22 Jul 26, 17:22   in response to: nigel-aves in response to: nigel-aves
 
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nigel-aves wrote:
Thanks for sorting that out. I thought you were on a PC, my bad!

Until a few weeks ago, I was. Big old Dell desktop PC, but M2 Macbook Air, and iPhone 14. I replaced the Dell with a shiny new M4 iMac.

I still hate Finder, and after living with the Magic Mouse for a couple of weeks, it was banished to the drawer forever. But most of the apps I use are entirely cross-platform: Thunderbird, Brave, LibreOffice, NetBeans, jAlbum, and so on.
RobM

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Re: Album level thumbnails are still .JPG not .AVIF
Posted: 22 Jul 26, 17:55   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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JeffTucker wrote:
I'm also on a Mac, and I get JPG folder thumbnails every time. I don't think RobM is looking in the right place - Tiger generates all sorts of images beyond the usual thumbnails and slides, many with misleading names. But the actual folder thumbnails are, indeed, where you're seeing them - in album > thumbs > folder.
You are correct, I didn’t dive deep enough to see the true folder thumbnails. I wonder is it just Tiger or other bundled skins?
JeffTucker

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Re: Album level thumbnails are still .JPG not .AVIF
Posted: 22 Jul 26, 18:05   in response to: RobM in response to: RobM
 
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RobM wrote:
You are correct....

As I've always told my grandnephews, "Unca Jeff knows everything, and he's always right." But now that they're between 12 and 16, they're not buying it any longer.

I wonder is it just Tiger or other bundled skins?

Quick tests - Photoblogger and Story also produce JPG folder thumbnails. Plain gets it right, however.
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