Re: Views don't work as expected ...

RobM

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Re: Views don't work as expected
Posted: 1 Nov 25, 21:15

Tiger seems to create a lot of files that are not referencing the original files. For example in the Alphabetical 'A' folder there are:
data1.json
folderimage.jpg
folderimage@2x.jpg
folderimg.jpg
folderimg@2x.jpg
folderthumb.jpg
index.html
shareimage.jpg

All of those folder... images and the share image will result in a much bigger album than one using Plain, Minimal, Atom etc.

I think you will be better posting a new question in the Tiger forum, asking specifically about all of those extra images.

Edited by: RobM on 1 Nov 2025, 21:58
Original Post https://jalbum.net/forum/thread.jspa?threadID=60729&tstart=0

davidekholm

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Re: Views don't work as expected
Posted: 1 Nov 25, 22:38

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(Moved to Tiger forum)

Laza

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Re: Views don't work as expected
Posted: 2 Nov 25, 08:01

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data1.json is generated by jAlbum and contains the list of images for this folder. Minimal doesn't have this file, because that's not a JSON-based skin.

folderimage.jpg is the hero background image. What would the skin use in the hero instead? I know that creating these views with these extra folders will result in numerous, virtually unnecessary files, but how is the skin supposed to function without them?

folderimage@2x.jpg is the high-DPI version of the same image for retina displays. You can turn this off in the Tiger / Advanced / Site admin / High resolution theme image.

folderimg.jpg and folderimg@2x.jpg are the mobile-optimized (vertically cropped) versions of the hero background.

folderthumb.jpg is the folder thumbnail. Today, we have a separate setting for the folder thumbnail size, but Tiger has generated these images far before jAlbum offered it.

index.html - I don't think this will bother anyone.

shareimage.jpg is the folder's share image, matching Facebook's requirements.

MarkusD

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Re: Views don't work as expected
Posted: 5 Nov 25, 19:26

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Laza wrote:
data1.json is generated by jAlbum and contains the list of images for this folder. Minimal doesn't have this file, because that's not a JSON-based skin.

folderimage.jpg is the hero background image. What would the skin use in the hero instead? I know that creating these views with these extra folders will result in numerous, virtually unnecessary files, but how is the skin supposed to function without them?

folderimage@2x.jpg is the high-DPI version of the same image for retina displays. You can turn this off in the Tiger / Advanced / Site admin / High resolution theme image.

folderimg.jpg and folderimg@2x.jpg are the mobile-optimized (vertically cropped) versions of the hero background.

folderthumb.jpg is the folder thumbnail. Today, we have a separate setting for the folder thumbnail size, but Tiger has generated these images far before jAlbum offered it.

index.html - I don't think this will bother anyone.

shareimage.jpg is the folder's share image, matching Facebook's requirements.

Thanks Laza for this overview.

But I'm not reffering to these files. What I tried to say is something different. I created a video so you can follow what I've done:
https://www.markus-drueck.de/public/jAlbum/Videos/Skin%20Tiger/index.html#img=Video_2025-11-05_190051.mp4

I'm not saying that the views don't work. But the result, regarding the created files is not how I understood the views should work.

Imagine a project with 100 videos and lets say 4 views and assume that all 100 videos fit into all 4 views. Right now jAlbum compiles a project with 101 videos, which is a desaster! I thougt that jAlbum views use the original file in the output folder and the "new view-magic" behind the scene will use that video in the views.

Thanks a lot.

JeffTucker

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Re: Views don't work as expected
Posted: 5 Nov 25, 19:51

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You're still generating a test case that's simply too complicated to debug.

Please do what I asked earlier:

https://jalbum.net/forum/thread.jspa?messageID=372099#372099

Laza

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Re: Views don't work as expected
Posted: 6 Nov 25, 17:49

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jAlbum is supposed to refer to these videos, not copy them. If not, that's an error. But not a skin error.

JeffTucker

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Re: Views don't work as expected
Posted: 6 Nov 25, 18:01

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Agreed. And I can't replicate what our friend MarkusD is clearly encountering. I don't even have a good hunch about what's happening.

Laza

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Re: Views don't work as expected
Posted: 7 Nov 25, 11:01

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Screenshot 2025-11-07 105458.png (846.9 KB)

When I do the same as you, I get the correct image counts (see attached). There was a version a week ago, which counted the views into the total, but that has been fixed.

I chose "Do not reencode" for one video, but none of the videos were reprocessed or copied under the View folder. Did you turn off "Settings / Images / Advanced / Copy originals if needed"? (That can trigger loads of other problems if you did.) Perhaps this too will be all right if you update jAlbum to the latest version.

MarkusD

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Re: Views don't work as expected
Posted: 7 Nov 25, 19:04

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Thanks Laza, I'll give the latest version of JA and Tiger a try and get back.

JeffTucker

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Re: Views don't work as expected
Posted: 7 Nov 25, 19:14

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Laza wrote:
I chose "Do not reencode" for one video, but none of the videos were reprocessed or copied under the View folder.

I went through much the same exercise, trying to "trip up" the view handling, and never found a combination that yielded multiple copies of a video (or any other object, for that matter).