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RobM

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Re: Problem recreating an album
Posted: 22 Aug 23, 18:04   in response to: nichollsphoto in response to: nichollsphoto
 
Of course, there are other options, one is to look at other skins and go for an entirely new look. Plenty of options to choose from.

The other, more radical choice is to not change the skin name but delete the bundled skin and replace, if you have one, the one in the configuration directory with the old version. Then you can ‘just’ run with the old settings. But, if you ever update jAlbum by installing a new version you must delete the bundled skin before making any albums. If you don’t you will automatically be using the current skin, not your old version.
JeffTucker

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Re: Problem recreating an album
Posted: 22 Aug 23, 18:12   in response to: nichollsphoto in response to: nichollsphoto
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nichollsphoto wrote:
I think this problem should be better documented... I can't believe I'm the only one who wants to add a photo gallery the same as the others, for example annually after a vacation...

The problem with sticking to an older version of any skin is that new skin versions don't just add new features. They fix old bugs, make changes that are needed to accommodate current browsers, and so on. The "breakage" just gets worse over time. It's always better to stay current. It's like stubbornly sticking with Win7 - the problems just continue to multiply.

The "once a year update" problem is a real one, but the way to deal with it is to make a backup copy of your project, install the newest skin version, make the album, and see how it looks. Usually, this won't produce any big, visible changes.

I routinely remake all of my projects whenever there's a new skin version. It takes very little time to load each project, hit CTRL-S to save some internal changes, hit F9 to make the album again, and then hit CTRL-SHIFT-U to upload it in the background. Using the jAlbum uploader is strongly recommended - it's much faster and more robust than using something like FileZilla.

BTW, I noticed something in your settings that is very dangerous with a JSON-driven skin like Photoblogger. You should pretty much never choose Settings > Advanced > General > Process only updated subdirectories. This may seem like the efficient thing to do. But in all skins, the entire album shares a single CSS file, so pages may have to be rebuilt to accommodate any change in what the skin is doing. And in a JSON-driven skin, the JSON database files must be rebuilt, and if they're going to work properly, they need to be rebuilt for all the folders. Ending up with an album in which different folders were created with different skin versions is a recipe not for disaster, but for mysterious, seemingly inexplicable failures.
nichollsphoto

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Re: Problem recreating an album
Posted: 22 Aug 23, 18:15   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
Thanks! I don't need to rebuild the old ones... As of this point I don't even care that much that the large images can't be opened on the first subgallery of Thailand... The large ones are pretty pathetic considering degraded ancient slides and tiny early digital media. I mainly need to be able to rather easily make new albums. My husband has spent many many hours scanning these old slides and he loves to be able to look at them after I've processed them... And I share them for fun with others...

His latest project was we noticed we had not scanned our photos of our trip on the Fantome, a Windjammer schooner that was destroyed, with crew but not passengers, by hurricane Mitch. Sad sad memories...

But you made my day! This is a wonderful forum and thanks so much to everyone for taking so much time with my little problem!
Laza

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Re: Problem recreating an album
Posted: 22 Aug 23, 18:30   in response to: nichollsphoto in response to: nichollsphoto
 
I still don't get what is the problem with replicating the original look.

Here's my attempt at this:
http://laza.jalbum.net/Thailand%202016%20nicholls/

You can use File -> Import -> Import settings from a published album and copy paste the URL:
http://laza.jalbum.net/Thailand%202016%20nicholls/
Laza

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Re: Problem recreating an album
Posted: 22 Aug 23, 18:37   in response to: nichollsphoto in response to: nichollsphoto
 
When I prepare major version releases I usually take care of the old look, and try to choose the closest possible setting for a given album with the new version. However, upgrading from version 1.6 is something the skin can't be prepared for. There were so many changes, the skin cannot adapt to. So it's safer upgrading every now and then - in my opinion - one major version change will never wreck the album.
JeffTucker

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Re: Problem recreating an album
Posted: 22 Aug 23, 18:40   in response to: Laza in response to: Laza
 
Laza wrote:
I still don't get what is the problem with replicating the original look.
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You can use File -> Import -> Import settings from a published album....

Doing that was leaving me with a lot of defaults from the current skin version, and fairly substantial changes from the older album. A boxed, centered album title and description over a theme image, very different thumbnail captioning options (different position, different content), no top bar navigation, unwanted "link" icon, and so on.

Didn't take me long to alter all of those things, which is where my demo album came from. But the OP wasn't interested in pursuing it, and just wanted to stick with the old version. Wouldn't be my choice, needless to say. ;)
nichollsphoto

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Re: Problem recreating an album
Posted: 22 Aug 23, 19:40   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
Yep. Completely different look. Attached image, new on left, old on right.

Taking the settings from the old album with new photoblogger on the left, the original album on the right. I see no similarity... And I know it took me a long time to configure that look. Photoblogger is wonderful because it has a zillion settings, but that can also be considered a problem... Done years ago, I have little memory of the settings...

Edited by: nichollsphoto on 22 Aug 2023, 19:56
Laza

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Re: Problem recreating an album
Posted: 22 Aug 23, 20:13   in response to: nichollsphoto in response to: nichollsphoto
 
Please look into the album I made. Does that look completely different from your old album?

(Or you'd prefer a white background? That's not hard to do either.)
JeffTucker

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Re: Problem recreating an album
Posted: 22 Aug 23, 20:50   in response to: Laza in response to: Laza
 
Laza, I see exactly what the OP sees in the screenshots she's attached.

New: boxed, centered title/description over a theme image. Old: unboxed, left-aligned title/description against a flat color background.

New: folder caption below thumbnail, plus image count. Old: folder caption overlayed on thumbnail, at lower left, no image count.

New: no top nav bar. Old: top nav bar.

There's a collection of these differences. Granted, it really does boil down to a handful of settings changes to make the new album look pretty much like the old one. Five minutes' work, tops. And that's what I would do, rather than stick with a semi-broken, old version of the skin.

There is no "white background" in any of them. That's just coming from the cropping of the screenshot, to combine the two images into one.
nichollsphoto

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Re: Problem recreating an album
Posted: 23 Aug 23, 00:07   in response to: Laza in response to: Laza
 
OK, similar. Font is not as easy to read. No top navigation, but I guess that's irrelevant. I have metadata in there picked up from the photos. The photos wiggle which makes me dizzy. yes I know that's one setting, but I have to find all those "one settings"...

What is 5 minutes for you guys is probably a day at least for someone who only does this occasionally. Maybe 2 days if I decide to get picky. But I see your point. Yep. I did nothing today to let this settle in my mind. I think you are right. I need to bite the bullet with new galleries and use the latest version...

So what's the way to proceed? Not try to bring any settings from other galleries and just bite the bullet and start configuring?
JeffTucker

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Re: Problem recreating an album
Posted: 23 Aug 23, 00:57   in response to: nichollsphoto in response to: nichollsphoto
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No reason to start from scratch, because a lot of the choices will carry over from your older albums, without any other mucking about needed.

So, first step is to make a copy of one of your older projects, like the Thailand 1999 project. Open it in jAlbum, click the little down-arrow next to its name in the left panel, and choose Duplicate project. Give it a new name, then make sure that from now on, you're tinkering with the new copy, rather than the original.

First, the easy settings changes:

  • Settings > Advanced > General, uncheck Process only updated subdirectories (critically important!!)
  • Photoblogger > Site > Design, check Scroll to top button
  • Photoblogger > Site > Top bar > Top navigation, check Include folders
  • Photoblogger > Site > Header > Header background, choose Flat color
  • Photoblogger > Site > Header > Title placement, choose Left top
  • Photoblogger > Site > Header > Caption template, delete the entire span line
  • Photoblogger > Site > Social, uncheck the Link box.
  • Photoblogger > Site > Footer > Bottom navigation, check Include folders
  • Photoblogger > Site > Footer > Custom link > URL, enter https://nichollsphoto.com
  • Photoblogger > Site > Footer > Custom link > Link text, enter Judy Nicholls' Photo Website
  • Photoblogger > Site > Footer, uncheck Show modified date and Show image count
  • Photoblogger > Main content > Folders > Caption placement, choose Left bottom
  • Photoblogger > Main content > Folders, uncheck Show image count

This will get you about 90% of the way there. More to follow....

Edited by: JeffTucker on 22 Aug 2023, 22:20, removed comment about a bug that isn't a bug

JeffTucker

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Re: Problem recreating an album
Posted: 23 Aug 23, 01:06   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
Now, for a bit of custom CSS. There's always some custom CSS. ;)

  • Photoblogger > Advanced > Custom code > CSS, delete the stuff that's already there (CSS selectors have changed, so those are ineffective), and add this:
    .hero .head-cont {min-height: 7rem;}
    
    Without that, the header on the folder pages, where there are no long descriptions, tends to be too tall. You might want to tinker with the height to get it where you like it, like 6rem or 8rem.
JeffTucker

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Re: Problem recreating an album
Posted: 23 Aug 23, 01:12   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
The next subject is font families and sizes, and that's where it gets tricky, since there's no "right" answer. You'll probably want to do some experimenting. The little preview pane in the Photoblogger UI tries to show you how things will look. But Google fonts are tough, because they don't display at a consistent size. Choose a different font, and it looks bigger or smaller. Makes me crazy.

But if you want to go for "classic and readable*, you might do:

  • Photoblogger > Site > Typography > Font family, choose Verdana
  • Photoblogger > Site > Typography > Headline font, choose [Same as base font]
  • Photoblogger > Site > Typography > Headline font size, choose 160%
JeffTucker

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Re: Problem recreating an album
Posted: 23 Aug 23, 01:21   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
A couple more little tidbits....

To provide the best show, you should probably bump the image bounds. Under Settings > Images > General > Image bounds > Images, I'd suggest something like 1600x1000 or even 1920x1080, since that's the most common monitor size these days. Might not make much difference on the older scanned stuff, but any modern digital images will benefit.

I would also choose HiDPI thumbnails (but not images). Somewhat better on a regular monitor, and much better on a high-density monitor (like a Mac Retina display). Files are larger, but we're still talking small.

Now, when you're absolutely, positively sure that everything looks hunky-dory (that's a technical term in website design), save this test project. Then you can open any other project, choose File > Import > Settings from Project, and navigate to the jalbum-settings.jap file of this test project.
JeffTucker

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Re: Problem recreating an album
Posted: 23 Aug 23, 01:35   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
Last subject, "wiggling" thumbnails. The thumbnails are just doing a slow expansion and contraction upon mouseover. Most visitors seem to like the subtle feedback that provides. There doesn't seem to be a skin setting for it (my skins let you turn it off completely), but again some custom CSS can get rid of it, if you really, truly detest it:
.folders .card .thumb:hover img, .thumbnails .card:hover .thumb img {transform: none;}
For contrast, if you want to see what a badly-done thumbnail hover looks like, take a look at something like this:

https://andrewolff.jalbum.net/FB_Samples_AA/

The thumbnails pop up and down like a demented jack-in-the-box, and spill out over their frames, in the bargain.
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