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Re: Problem recreating an album
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22 Aug 23, 03:31
in response to: nichollsphoto
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And this is where the fun starts.
Your older albums were actually created with several different versions of Photoblogger. Talk about a trip down the rabbit hole.
In your position, I would bite the bullet. Get fully updated with the latest version of jAlbum, and the latest version of Photoblogger. Then, ignore the older albums for a while. Create a new little test album, with no more than a couple dozen images, perhaps in two folders. Then play with it - explore the options until you find a new "look and feel" that you like.
If you're puzzled about how to make something happen (there really are an ungodly number of settings options), ask about it here.
When you finally have a result you like, return to the older albums. Open each one, in turn, and import the settings from your test album. Make the album, preview it to make sure everything is OK, then upload it.
Trying to recreate the past is just going to get more and more tangled.
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Re: Problem recreating an album
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22 Aug 23, 05:07
in response to: JeffTucker
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The trouble is surely my getting my old photos processed and ready to make a gallery "every so often" is similar to people who take a trip once a year. If you want to use such a tool you need to know that this happens and keep the version you started with! So if I catch up, I will find myself in the same position next year UNLESS I stop updating. Looks like all that has to stop updating is the skin... (But I could be wrong).
NOW one could ask that skins not make major changes without allowing more than one version of a skin to be installed. For some other purpose I might want new features in photoblogger... But only one can be installed on a single desktop, I assume...
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Re: Problem recreating an album
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22 Aug 23, 07:55
in response to: nichollsphoto
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The wrong album was made with PhotoBlogger 1.6.4, but now we're at 5.1.3. I bet if you have remade the same album with the new skin, and uploaded it without an error, it would work.
A lot has changed in web design and browsers in the past 7 years. It's not us, but the big boys are changing things, and we try to adapt our skins. So the problem is not when you update a skin, but when you don't update the skin.
Please note, you cannot mix a new skin version with an old style. HTML, CSS, and JavaScript are linked together strongly, you cannot mix files of different versions.
After a skin update, you have to allow jAlbum to regenerate and upload everything, as manually selecting which part of the album to upload is a prescription to trouble.
If you regularly update the skin, regenerate the changed album(s), and upload with jAlbum's Upload function, you should not bump up any problems, and your albums will keep up-to-date.
When I make an album with the album settings in the Thailand album, it works fine, but it doesn't resemble the uploaded album.
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Re: Problem recreating an album
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22 Aug 23, 14:52
in response to: JeffTucker
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I created an album using my own images, then started with the settings from your old album. Things have changed a lot, but it's more "evolution" than "revolution." Now remember, Photoblogger is not my skin, and I don't use it for any of my own albums, so it's mostly unfamiliar to me. Took me less than one cup of coffee and a little tweaking to get to this:
(demo album removed)
Pretty close, I'd say. And this is an album that's coded to current standards. Well, mostly - Laza's stuff never fully validates, unlike my excellent skins.
Ignore the fact that my images don't have proper titles on them (so you'll see the file names in the lightbox), and don't have IPTC location info (at first, I was wondering where the " - - " was coming from, until I looked at your lightbox caption template).
I'm not sure what the typography in your original album should look like, because the fonts aren't loading on your site (modern browsers have tighter security), but my demo is using the fonts called out in your original project file. They probably need some size adjustments, but that's fairly easy.
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Re: Problem recreating an album
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22 Aug 23, 14:58
in response to: JeffTucker
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BTW, when your Bluehost subscription is getting close to the end, come on back, and I can suggest some better alternatives. Bluehost is part of the notorious Newfold/EIG family of web hosts. Overloaded servers, terrible customer service, etc. Their motto is, "We Don't Care, Because We Don't Have To."
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Re: Problem recreating an album
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22 Aug 23, 16:06
in response to: JeffTucker
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It doesn't look at all like my albums.
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Re: Problem recreating an album
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22 Aug 23, 16:10
in response to: Laza
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I spent a lot of time creating that album look and I despise the default result now. What is wrong with downloading the last version 1 of photoblogger? I don't want to make albums with a new look or recreate the old albums, I just want to continue to make new albums that look like the old ones. Isn't that the point of having so many options? We get to choose what they look like???
It is a big plus that photoblogger has so many choices, but it's a downside if you have to recreate a look and layout. My guess is it would take me two days.
Edited by: nichollsphoto on 22 Aug 2023, 16:14
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Re: Problem recreating an album
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22 Aug 23, 16:19
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It doesn't look at all like my albums.
Really? Please explain what important differences you're seeing.
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Re: Problem recreating an album
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22 Aug 23, 16:22
in response to: nichollsphoto
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What is wrong with downloading the last version 1 of photoblogger?
It produces albums that don't work properly with any current browser, for starters. It doesn't show the fonts you've selected for the album, and we know exactly why. The current version of the skin takes care of that problem.
I'm sorry we can't turn back the clock for you. it really isn't 2017 any more.
Best of luck.
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Re: Problem recreating an album
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22 Aug 23, 16:39
in response to: JeffTucker
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They work on the latest firefox and chrome and on my phone, they are responsive. I don't care much about fonts. The issue with the one gallery is a fluke -- the rest all work. Responsive was the important point.
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Re: Problem recreating an album
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22 Aug 23, 17:19
in response to: nichollsphoto
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The following is not advised but possible. Doing so would probably leave you with no real help when you run into problems - especially things like shopping basket.
You can download the old skin versions, don’t install them but instead rename them first. For example version 1.9.7, download it and change the extension from .jaskin to .zip. Now unzip the file and rename the top level folder to, for example, PhotoBlogger197. Move that folder to the skins directory in jAlbum’s configuration directory. Create a test project and select the PhotoBlogger197 skin, import the settings from an old project/album and make the album.
If it works and looks right to you then open an old project and change the skin, continue as per the test project.
To repeat you will almost certainly be on your own if you do this.
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Re: Problem recreating an album
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22 Aug 23, 17:26
in response to: RobM
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I always wrestle with the choice of being The Enabler or not. It often just leads further and further down the rabbit hole. Glad to see you're stepping up to the plate!
Create a test project and select the PhotoBlogger197 skin, import the settings from an old project/album and make the album.
Won't work. Importing the settings from the old project will automatically select Photoblogger as the skin, overriding the Photoblogger197 initial choice, leaving you right back where you started.
When I do this (usually as part of testing new versions of my own skins), I find that the only way to handle it cleanly is to edit the .jap file of the target project, and manually change the name of the skin.
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Re: Problem recreating an album
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22 Aug 23, 17:38
in response to: JeffTucker
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True, I forgot the need to duplicate the old project’s settings file and then change the skin name in that .jap file. Then importing the settings from that file.
It does however alert the OP to how difficult it can be and how easy to overlook an essential step. As said before, not recommended but possible.
I did make an external tool to rename a skin and keep the settings, in the tools forum. But using that would require more explanation as it was intended for small customisation of the current skin.
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Re: Problem recreating an album
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22 Aug 23, 17:44
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Thank you Jeff and Rob!! I like the renaming idea. And my first thought was it would go look for the real Photoblogger, and I should copy the jap, but you covered that... Copy the jap and edit it. Thanks for being an "enabler"! It may be the wrong choice, but it looks like no matter what way I go I'm going to have to not update the skins in order to keep the same look. I think this problem should be better documented... I can't believe I'm the only one who wants to add a photo gallery the same as the others, for example annually after a vacation...
No problem with shopping basket with these, nor are these galleries important -- just something I want to make easily available to friends and family. Any shopping basket problems are for another day... I don't even want to THINK about that! Maybe I'll never update it... It's not photoblogger, but tiger. I may have already updated that with the tiger that's in JAlbum now. I noticed a note that I had to get rid of the nasty background photo behind the text on the main page, so I may be good to go with the tiger now installed...
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Re: Problem recreating an album
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22 Aug 23, 17:58
in response to: RobM
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True, I forgot the need to duplicate the old project’s settings file and then change the skin name in that .jap file. Then importing the settings from that file.
To muddy the waters further, a user could install a skin as Photoblogger197, change the name of the skin in the .jap file of just one of the older projects, launch jAlbum, open that project, then choose File > Save as Skin Default. Then open each of the other old projects and select Photoblogger197 as the skin.
It gets even more dicey when the older albums were made with different old versions of the skin, of course. 
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