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John-Simpson

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jAlbum Freezes when using TIGER on a large album.
Posted: 19 Apr 23, 18:29
 
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I don't know whether this should be posted on jAlbum General Forum or the Tiger Forum?

I've amalgamated several old GROMIT albums into a TIGER album. I choose TIGER because I really needed the inbuilt search facility, which is a boon to all who use the website.

I've already got a TIGER Website that works okay as do all the Jupiter and Gromit Albums that TIGER will eventually replace. On this latest TIGER Website I've gradually been moving photos and videos across when this one froze. Nothing works and Ctrl Alt Delete is the only way to close it down. Now it freezes every time after a few clicks. The last thing I was doing yesterday when it happened was renaming some folders and sorting them into the order I wanted them to appear. Before that, I had replaced 2 videos with bigger files and jAlbum did a good job of converting them to mp4. All uploaded too!

I am on Windows 10 and maybe my processor or memory isn't up to scratch and that may be the fault. Or maybe I've reached the limit on the size of the album that jAlbum can process?

I've included the thread-dump file which is meaningless to me but maybe not to you.

The website has 2330 images, 6 videos and 2 others (PDF). Many of the images have a lot of text!

I've excluded the latest additions - 2 videos and I'm about to exclude the folder I was sorting when it happened. Any ideas appreciated.

The website in question is: http://legsreunited.org.uk/people/index.html
JeffTucker

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Re: jAlbum Freezes when using TIGER on a large album.
Posted: 19 Apr 23, 18:32   in response to: John-Simpson in response to: John-Simpson
 
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(Moved to General Discussion. Broadly speaking, the skin isn't involved until you click Make album )
JeffTucker

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Re: jAlbum Freezes when using TIGER on a large album.
Posted: 19 Apr 23, 18:35   in response to: John-Simpson in response to: John-Simpson
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John-Simpson wrote:
Or maybe I've reached the limit on the size of the album that jAlbum can process?
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The website has 2330 images, 6 videos and 2 others (PDF). Many of the images have a lot of text!

Not even close to any size limitations. People have projects with tens of thousands of images. Ran into a user a few days ago who has over one million images.
John-Simpson

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Re: jAlbum Freezes when using TIGER on a large album.
Posted: 21 Apr 23, 22:15   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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I think I've got over most of the problems. I think it is caused by renaming folders. It doesn't appear to always work and then it crashes. Originally I was absolutely stuck but it stayed working sufficiently long enough for me to drag the last folder I was working on out of jAlbum and onto the PC Windows desktop. I then dragged it back in again and it seems a lot better!

I'm only renaming so that the folders are sorted into NAME order. I would have liked to have used TITLE for sorting Folders but that option isn't in the list.

This other thing is that I'm sure that the jAlbum interface had a Folder icon on it when in EDIT mode. When editing the folder Titles and Descriptions it is difficult to know whether you are working on IMAGES in the folder or working on the FOLDER. (it looks identical !)

Maybe I'm missing something or has it never looked different?
JeffTucker

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Re: jAlbum Freezes when using TIGER on a large album.
Posted: 21 Apr 23, 22:27   in response to: John-Simpson in response to: John-Simpson
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John-Simpson wrote:
I'm only renaming so that the folders are sorted into NAME order. I would have liked to have used TITLE for sorting Folders but that option isn't in the list.

Just remember that you're always free to drag the folders into whatever order you like. Unless you have a huge number of folders, that's probably easier than wandering into the minefield of renaming them. It's too easy to end up with things like circular references, which ends up being lots of fun.

This other thing is that I'm sure that the jAlbum interface had a Folder icon on it when in EDIT mode. When editing the folder Titles and Descriptions it is difficult to know whether you are working on IMAGES in the folder or working on the FOLDER. (it looks identical !)

Maybe I'm missing something or has it never looked different?


I hadn't noticed, but I would swear that a folder, in edit mode, used to be instantly recognizable. Now, if the folder has a representing image, it is, indeed, very difficult to tell whether you're editing the titles and comments for an image or for a folder.

David, this is not a change for the better! :)
RobM

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Re: jAlbum Freezes when using TIGER on a large album.
Posted: 21 Apr 23, 22:41   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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JeffTucker wrote:
I hadn't noticed, but I would swear that a folder, in edit mode, used to be instantly recognizable. Now, if the folder has a representing image, it is, indeed, very difficult to tell whether you're editing the titles and comments for an image or for a folder.
Ensure the 'General' pane is open. When editing an image the 'Name' field shows an extension. When editing a folder it doesn't. Simples! ;)
JeffTucker

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Re: jAlbum Freezes when using TIGER on a large album.
Posted: 21 Apr 23, 22:51   in response to: RobM in response to: RobM
 
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Yeah, but it used to be much more obvious, unless I'm confused. Again. ;)
RobM

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Re: jAlbum Freezes when using TIGER on a large album.
Posted: 21 Apr 23, 23:07   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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JeffTucker wrote:
Yeah, but it used to be much more obvious, unless I'm confused. Again. ;)
No, your as coherent as the rest of us! The folder overlay got turned off/removed with 30.1
JeffTucker

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Re: jAlbum Freezes when using TIGER on a large album.
Posted: 21 Apr 23, 23:10   in response to: RobM in response to: RobM
 
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RobM wrote:
The folder overlay got turned off/removed with 30.1

I'm going on a hunger strike! No food until the overlay comes back. Only single malt to sustain me. Someone has to make this sacrifice.
RobM

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Re: jAlbum Freezes when using TIGER on a large album.
Posted: 21 Apr 23, 23:12   in response to: RobM in response to: RobM
 
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Could be a side effect of sharper thumbnails being introduced :)
John-Simpson

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Re: jAlbum Freezes when using TIGER on a large album.
Posted: 22 Apr 23, 00:26   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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Regarding the dragging of folder, there are 46 forders to sort in one folder, so not massive operation to drag to sort them, but getting jAlbum to sort them seemed easier. However, it would be better if the folder Title could be used for the sort order because changing it has no effect on the file path to the images.

I look forward to the return of the folder icon in Folder Edit mode.

I thought at first it was the anti-folder icon police were at work again!

Edited by: John-Simpson on 22 Apr 2023, 08:03
davidekholm

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Re: jAlbum Freezes when using TIGER on a large album.
Posted: 22 Apr 23, 23:40   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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JeffTucker wrote:

I hadn't noticed, but I would swear that a folder, in edit mode, used to be instantly recognizable. Now, if the folder has a representing image, it is, indeed, very difficult to tell whether you're editing the titles and comments for an image or for a folder.

David, this is not a change for the better! :)


That change wasn't intentional. I promise. I'll look into it.
JeffTucker

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Re: jAlbum Freezes when using TIGER on a large album.
Posted: 22 Apr 23, 23:43   in response to: davidekholm in response to: davidekholm
 
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Another late-night visit by the Code Gnomes™. ;)
davidekholm

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Re: jAlbum Freezes when using TIGER on a large album.
Posted: 23 Apr 23, 20:48   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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Do a core update to v30.2.3. This version superimposes a folder icon onto images in edit mode again.
JeffTucker

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Re: jAlbum Freezes when using TIGER on a large album.
Posted: 23 Apr 23, 20:54   in response to: davidekholm in response to: davidekholm
 
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I'm getting 30.3b1, and no overlays.
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