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AndreWolff

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Add audio file types aac and flac to the filetypes.xml file.
Posted: 21 Sep 21, 17:04
 
If you Google for “most used audio file formats”, you see that both aac (Apple's Advanced Audio Coding) and flac ( Free Lossless Audio Codec) are very popular, but both file types are missing in the standard jAlbum filetypes.xml file.

So my request is to add these types to the standard jAlbum filetypes.xml file, so that users are not forceed to change or make there own filetypes.xml file.

The file types ram, rm and weba are in filetypes.xml file, but they are not mentioned in the surveys, so may be they can be removed.
JeffTucker

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Re: Add audio file types aac and flac to the filetypes.xml file.
Posted: 21 Sep 21, 17:26   in response to: AndreWolff in response to: AndreWolff
 
AAC is not supported in Firefox, so it's a poor choice for audio files included in an album.

FLAC and WEBA are supported in all current browsers.

RM and RAM both rely on RealMedia software, and are not supported in any browser unless a plugin is installed. So, also a poor choice for audio files.

WAV is supported in all browsers, but is lossless, so it's like using BMP or PNG files instead of JPG - big files. Not a good choice.

WMA is Windows only, and is not supported in any browser.

Rather than thrash about with jAlbum options, the smart move is simply to convert whatever audio you want to use to MP3 (many free converters online), and move on.
AndreWolff

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Re: Add audio file types aac and flac to the filetypes.xml file.
Posted: 21 Sep 21, 22:24   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
JeffTucker wrote:
AAC is not supported in Firefox, so it's a poor choice for audio files included in an album.
Well on my Windows 10 PC an aac file is supported by Firefox, as you can test with the last thumbnail in my audio tracks test album.
I did not check that on mobile devices, but Firefox is hardly used on mobile devices.
The aac type apparently comes from Apple, soI think it is an excellent choice for audio files in albums.

Converting an aac file to mp3 is not a good idea, because the quality of aac is better then mp3, see here.

Firefox on my iPad supports too aac.
RobM

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Re: Add audio file types aac and flac to the filetypes.xml file.
Posted: 21 Sep 21, 22:57   in response to: AndreWolff in response to: AndreWolff
 
AndreWolff

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Re: Add audio file types aac and flac to the filetypes.xml file.
Posted: 21 Sep 21, 23:04   in response to: RobM in response to: RobM
 
RobM wrote:
See https://caniuse.com/aac
Yes it says:

Advanced Audio Coding format, designed to be the successor format to MP3, with generally better sound quality.
RobM

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Re: Add audio file types aac and flac to the filetypes.xml file.
Posted: 21 Sep 21, 23:05   in response to: AndreWolff in response to: AndreWolff
 
AndreWolff wrote:
RobM wrote:
See https://caniuse.com/aac
Yes it says:

Advanced Audio Coding format, designed to be the successor format to MP3, with generally better sound quality.

It also says ‘Partial support in Firefox refers to only supporting AAC in an MP4 container and only when the operating system already has the codecs installed..’
JeffTucker

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Re: Add audio file types aac and flac to the filetypes.xml file.
Posted: 21 Sep 21, 23:53   in response to: RobM in response to: RobM
 
There's simply no reason to use anything other than MP3. Sure, some other format might have "better sound quality," but who's listening to the sound clips in your album on a nine-speaker surround sound system with Dolby Atmos speakers firing at the ceiling for the sound effects? If no one can tell the difference in a double-blind test, it doesn't matter. They're listening on ear buds, or, like me, with some truly ancient Altec Lansing computer speakers. Not exactly Decca ffrr!

And just because something was developed by Apple doesn't mean that it's a good choice for inclusion in an album. Apple generally doesn't do "open source" for much of anything. Ninety percent of your visitors are not on Macs.
AndreWolff

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Re: Add audio file types aac and flac to the filetypes.xml file.
Posted: 22 Sep 21, 08:37   in response to: RobM in response to: RobM
 
RobM wrote:
It also says ‘Partial support in Firefox refers to only supporting AAC in an MP4 container and only when the operating system already has the codecs installed..’
Well it runs on all my systems and I did not install anything to get this done, apart from the fect of course that I had to edit a filetypes.xml file.
AndreWolff

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Re: Add audio file types aac and flac to the filetypes.xml file.
Posted: 22 Sep 21, 08:43   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
Well aac is better as filetypes rm, rma and wma which are useless.

Adding aac to this file does not mean that you have to use it, it is the user who decides to use this format yes or no, but he should get the opportunity to use it without editting a filetypes.xml file.

I really don't understand why you guys are making so much noise about a simple proposition to add 2 lines of code to a file!
RobM

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Re: Add audio file types aac and flac to the filetypes.xml file.
Posted: 22 Sep 21, 10:33   in response to: AndreWolff in response to: AndreWolff
 
AndreWolff wrote:
Well aac is better as filetypes rm, rma and wma which are useless.

Adding aac to this file does not mean that you have to use it, it is the user who decides to use this format yes or no, but he should get the opportunity to use it without editting a filetypes.xml file.

I really don't understand why you guys are making so much noise about a simple proposition to add 2 lines of code to a file!

So, in your manual give users the required code and instructions on where to put it, or point them to the appropriate wiki page. By the way, how many users have requested such support for these file types? I have not seen any requests posted in the forum, other than your three recent posts.

And finally, for me in this thread, it is up to David, he decides what features to implement. Your request is documented, so let’s move on.
JeffTucker

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Re: Add audio file types aac and flac to the filetypes.xml file.
Posted: 22 Sep 21, 10:39   in response to: AndreWolff in response to: AndreWolff
 
AndreWolff wrote:
I really don't understand why you guys are making so much noise about a simple proposition to add 2 lines of code to a file!

It's because, as usual, you haven't done your homework. You're too lazy to do the checking, and just expect others to do it for you. "This works for me, so it should be added. I've never heard of these other ones, so they should be removed." It's all about you. It's always the same story with you, and we're really, really, really tired of it.

Unlike you, I've done the research. You're asking for the addition of a file type that doesn't have universal browser support. That's the wrong thing to do.
AndreWolff

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Re: Add audio file types aac and flac to the filetypes.xml file.
Posted: 22 Sep 21, 11:01   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
JeffTucker wrote:
Unlike you, I've done the research. You're asking for the addition of a file type that doesn't have universal browser support.
You did not do your research correctly: you said it is not supported in Firefox, which is incorrect.
JeffTucker

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Re: Add audio file types aac and flac to the filetypes.xml file.
Posted: 22 Sep 21, 11:01   in response to: AndreWolff in response to: AndreWolff
 
AndreWolff wrote:
Well it runs on all my systems....

... so I don't care about anyone else's system."

It's not all about you.
JeffTucker

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Re: Add audio file types aac and flac to the filetypes.xml file.
Posted: 22 Sep 21, 11:03   in response to: AndreWolff in response to: AndreWolff
 
AndreWolff wrote:
JeffTucker wrote:
Unlike you, I've done the research. You're asking for the addition of a file type that doesn't have universal browser support.
You did not do your research correctly: you said it is not supported in Firefox, which is incorrect.

You did the research by trying it on your own PC, and that's as far as you went. This is what you do every time. I'm not the one who decided that it's not fully supported in Firefox. I went to a reliable source to double-check it.

Here's what the Firefox developers say about it:

Firefox only supports AAC if support is provided by the operating system or an external library.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Media/Formats/Audio_codecs
JeffTucker

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Re: Add audio file types aac and flac to the filetypes.xml file.
Posted: 22 Sep 21, 11:06   in response to: AndreWolff in response to: AndreWolff
 
AndreWolff wrote:
I did not check that on mobile devices, but Firefox is hardly used on mobile devices.

How have you arrived at that conclusion? I default to Firefox on my PC, my Macbook, and my Android phone, and I stick to that so that things like bookmarks stay synchronized across all of them. And guess what about AAC on Firefox on Android - it doesn't work.

But once again, because André doesn't use Firefox on Android, he assumes that no one else does, so it can be ignored.

It's not all about you.
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