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gvmelle

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again something strange This time with selfies
Posted: 29 Jun 21, 19:55
 
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Photo in portrait cut off if selfie. Where does that come from???

I have this in Tiger version 2.xx and 3.xx

Maybe because I was so stupid to upgrade to 3.xxx but why put this yellow ribbon there if if is a beta version to upgrade to???

If somebody has a clue then TIA,

Gideon van Melle

Laza

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Re: again something strange This time with selfies
Posted: 29 Jun 21, 21:05   in response to: gvmelle in response to: gvmelle
 
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Can you please tell me what is this device?

Looks like if the code (the database) knows a different dimension from the real image dimensions. Does the local preview work? Did jAlbum regenerate all the images?
gvmelle

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Re: again something strange This time with selfies
Posted: 29 Jun 21, 22:19   in response to: Laza in response to: Laza
 
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I'm on a iMac iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2020) with macOS 11.5 Beta (20G5042c).

In de preview of jAlbum I got the same difference in dimensions. It occurs only with selfies apparently.

This are the setting for image linking: link to scaled-down images only.

exiftool date for that picture:
ExifTool Version Number         : 12.26
File Name                       : IMG_6461.jpg
Directory                       : /Users/gideon/Fotos voor jAlbums/Het jaar 2021/Fietsvakantie 24-29 juni 2021
File Size                       : 1577 KiB
File Modification Date/Time     : 2021:06:29 22:04:13+02:00
File Access Date/Time           : 2021:06:29 22:04:14+02:00
File Inode Change Date/Time     : 2021:06:29 22:04:13+02:00
File Permissions                : -rw-r-----
File Type                       : JPEG
File Type Extension             : jpg
MIME Type                       : image/jpeg
JFIF Version                    : 1.01
Exif Byte Order                 : Big-endian (Motorola, MM)
Make                            : Apple
Camera Model Name               : iPhone 11 Pro
Orientation                     : Mirror horizontal and rotate 270 CW
X Resolution                    : 72
Y Resolution                    : 72
Resolution Unit                 : inches
Software                        : 14.7
Modify Date                     : 2021:06:25 07:52:01
Host Computer                   : iPhone 11 Pro
Y Cb Cr Positioning             : Centered
Exposure Time                   : 1/122
F Number                        : 2.2
Exposure Program                : Program AE
ISO                             : 25
Exif Version                    : 0232
Date/Time Original              : 2021:06:25 07:52:01
Create Date                     : 2021:06:25 07:52:01
Offset Time                     : +02:00
Offset Time Original            : +02:00
Offset Time Digitized           : +02:00
Components Configuration        : Y, Cb, Cr, -
Shutter Speed Value             : 1/122
Aperture Value                  : 2.2
Brightness Value                : 7.117723662
Exposure Compensation           : 0
Metering Mode                   : Multi-segment
Flash                           : Off, Did not fire
Focal Length                    : 2.7 mm
Run Time Flags                  : Valid
Run Time Value                  : 7120124246541
Run Time Scale                  : 1000000000
Run Time Epoch                  : 0
Acceleration Vector             : 0.07390640683 -0.8300965424 0.5620843768
Sub Sec Time Original           : 022
Sub Sec Time Digitized          : 022
Flashpix Version                : 0100
Color Space                     : Uncalibrated
Exif Image Width                : 3088
Exif Image Height               : 2316
Sensing Method                  : One-chip color area
Scene Type                      : Directly photographed
Exposure Mode                   : Auto
White Balance                   : Auto
Focal Length In 35mm Format     : 30 mm
Scene Capture Type              : Standard
Image Unique ID                 : 22a1e34580271c270000000000000000
Lens Info                       : 2.71mm f/2.2
Lens Make                       : Apple
Lens Model                      : iPhone 11 Pro front camera 2.71mm f/2.2
Composite Image                 : General Composite Image
GPS Version ID                  : 2.2.0.0
GPS Latitude Ref                : North
GPS Longitude Ref               : East
GPS Altitude Ref                : Above Sea Level
GPS Speed Ref                   : km/h
GPS Speed                       : 0
GPS Img Direction Ref           : True North
GPS Img Direction               : 41.53219606
GPS Dest Bearing Ref            : True North
GPS Dest Bearing                : 221.5321959
GPS Date Stamp                  : 2021:06:25
GPS Horizontal Positioning Error: 4.720065228 m
Compression                     : JPEG (old-style)
Thumbnail Offset                : 2494
Thumbnail Length                : 6803
XMP Toolkit                     : XMP Core 5.5.0
Region Type                     : Face
Region Area Y                   : 0.7089119170984457
Region Area W                   : 0.21282901554404143
Region Area X                   : 0.5006528497409326
Region Area H                   : 0.2846424870466322
Region Area Unit                : normalized
Region Extensions Angle Info Yaw: 45
Region Extensions Angle Info Roll: 240
Region Extensions Confidence Level: 734
Region Extensions Face ID       : 1
Region Applied To Dimensions H  : 3024
Region Applied To Dimensions W  : 4032
Region Applied To Dimensions Unit: pixel
Profile CMM Type                : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Version                 : 4.0.0
Profile Class                   : Display Device Profile
Color Space Data                : RGB
Profile Connection Space        : XYZ
Profile Date Time               : 2017:07:07 13:22:32
Profile File Signature          : acsp
Primary Platform                : Apple Computer Inc.
CMM Flags                       : Not Embedded, Independent
Device Manufacturer             : Apple Computer Inc.
Device Model                    : 
Device Attributes               : Reflective, Glossy, Positive, Color
Rendering Intent                : Perceptual
Connection Space Illuminant     : 0.9642 1 0.82491
Profile Creator                 : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile ID                      : ca1a9582257f104d389913d5d1ea1582
Profile Description             : Display P3
Profile Copyright               : Copyright Apple Inc., 2017
Media White Point               : 0.95045 1 1.08905
Red Matrix Column               : 0.51512 0.2412 -0.00105
Green Matrix Column             : 0.29198 0.69225 0.04189
Blue Matrix Column              : 0.1571 0.06657 0.78407
Red Tone Reproduction Curve     : (Binary data 32 bytes, use -b option to extract)
Chromatic Adaptation            : 1.04788 0.02292 -0.0502 0.02959 0.99048 -0.01706 -0.00923 0.01508 0.75168
Blue Tone Reproduction Curve    : (Binary data 32 bytes, use -b option to extract)
Green Tone Reproduction Curve   : (Binary data 32 bytes, use -b option to extract)
Image Width                     : 3088
Image Height                    : 2316
Encoding Process                : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
Bits Per Sample                 : 8
Color Components                : 3
Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling            : YCbCr4:2:0 (2 2)
Run Time Since Power Up         : 1:58:40
Aperture                        : 2.2
Image Size                      : 3088x2316
Megapixels                      : 7.2
Scale Factor To 35 mm Equivalent: 11.1
Shutter Speed                   : 1/122
Create Date                     : 2021:06:25 07:52:01.022+02:00
Date/Time Original              : 2021:06:25 07:52:01.022+02:00
Modify Date                     : 2021:06:25 07:52:01+02:00
Thumbnail Image                 : (Binary data 6803 bytes, use -b option to extract)
GPS Altitude                    : 16.6 m Above Sea Level
GPS Latitude                    : 51 deg 28' 52.43" N
GPS Longitude                   : 6 deg 10' 2.85" E
Circle Of Confusion             : 0.003 mm
Field Of View                   : 61.9 deg
Focal Length                    : 2.7 mm (35 mm equivalent: 30.0 mm)
GPS Position                    : 51 deg 28' 52.43" N, 6 deg 10' 2.85" E
Hyperfocal Distance             : 1.23 m
Light Value                     : 11.2
Lens ID                         : iPhone 11 Pro front camera 2.71mm f/2.2


I can see that the width and height are switched, but thtat's also the case for another picture in portrait format that's not a selfie. Here are tohse exiftool data:

ExifTool Version Number         : 12.26
File Name                       : IMG_6407.jpg
Directory                       : /Users/gideon/Fotos voor jAlbums/Het jaar 2021/Fietsvakantie 24-29 juni 2021
File Size                       : 4.2 MiB
File Modification Date/Time     : 2021:06:24 15:41:18+02:00
File Access Date/Time           : 2021:06:29 22:15:51+02:00
File Inode Change Date/Time     : 2021:06:29 16:39:53+02:00
File Permissions                : -rw-r-----
File Type                       : JPEG
File Type Extension             : jpg
MIME Type                       : image/jpeg
JFIF Version                    : 1.01
Exif Byte Order                 : Big-endian (Motorola, MM)
Make                            : Apple
Camera Model Name               : iPhone 11 Pro
Orientation                     : Rotate 90 CW
X Resolution                    : 72
Y Resolution                    : 72
Resolution Unit                 : inches
Software                        : 14.7
Modify Date                     : 2021:06:24 15:41:18
Host Computer                   : iPhone 11 Pro
Y Cb Cr Positioning             : Centered
Exposure Time                   : 1/499
F Number                        : 1.8
Exposure Program                : Program AE
ISO                             : 32
Exif Version                    : 0232
Date/Time Original              : 2021:06:24 15:41:18
Create Date                     : 2021:06:24 15:41:18
Offset Time                     : +02:00
Offset Time Original            : +02:00
Offset Time Digitized           : +02:00
Components Configuration        : Y, Cb, Cr, -
Shutter Speed Value             : 1/499
Aperture Value                  : 1.8
Brightness Value                : 7.44273088
Exposure Compensation           : 0
Metering Mode                   : Multi-segment
Flash                           : Off, Did not fire
Focal Length                    : 4.2 mm
Subject Area                    : 2002 1505 2213 1324
Run Time Flags                  : Valid
Run Time Value                  : 529730907433125
Run Time Scale                  : 1000000000
Run Time Epoch                  : 0
Acceleration Vector             : 0.005323223769 -0.9815482503 -0.1916861682
Sub Sec Time Original           : 019
Sub Sec Time Digitized          : 019
Flashpix Version                : 0100
Color Space                     : Uncalibrated
Exif Image Width                : 4032
Exif Image Height               : 3024
Sensing Method                  : One-chip color area
Scene Type                      : Directly photographed
Exposure Mode                   : Auto
White Balance                   : Auto
Focal Length In 35mm Format     : 26 mm
Scene Capture Type              : Standard
Image Unique ID                 : c6166cf003677f0c0000000000000000
Lens Info                       : 1.539999962-6mm f/1.8-2.4
Lens Make                       : Apple
Lens Model                      : iPhone 11 Pro back triple camera 4.25mm f/1.8
Composite Image                 : General Composite Image
GPS Version ID                  : 2.2.0.0
GPS Latitude Ref                : North
GPS Longitude Ref               : East
GPS Altitude Ref                : Above Sea Level
GPS Speed Ref                   : km/h
GPS Speed                       : 0
GPS Img Direction Ref           : True North
GPS Img Direction               : 263.8453674
GPS Dest Bearing Ref            : True North
GPS Dest Bearing                : 263.8453674
GPS Date Stamp                  : 2021:06:24
GPS Horizontal Positioning Error: 4.945802509 m
Compression                     : JPEG (old-style)
Thumbnail Offset                : 2588
Thumbnail Length                : 7409
Profile CMM Type                : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile Version                 : 4.0.0
Profile Class                   : Display Device Profile
Color Space Data                : RGB
Profile Connection Space        : XYZ
Profile Date Time               : 2017:07:07 13:22:32
Profile File Signature          : acsp
Primary Platform                : Apple Computer Inc.
CMM Flags                       : Not Embedded, Independent
Device Manufacturer             : Apple Computer Inc.
Device Model                    : 
Device Attributes               : Reflective, Glossy, Positive, Color
Rendering Intent                : Perceptual
Connection Space Illuminant     : 0.9642 1 0.82491
Profile Creator                 : Apple Computer Inc.
Profile ID                      : ca1a9582257f104d389913d5d1ea1582
Profile Description             : Display P3
Profile Copyright               : Copyright Apple Inc., 2017
Media White Point               : 0.95045 1 1.08905
Red Matrix Column               : 0.51512 0.2412 -0.00105
Green Matrix Column             : 0.29198 0.69225 0.04189
Blue Matrix Column              : 0.1571 0.06657 0.78407
Red Tone Reproduction Curve     : (Binary data 32 bytes, use -b option to extract)
Chromatic Adaptation            : 1.04788 0.02292 -0.0502 0.02959 0.99048 -0.01706 -0.00923 0.01508 0.75168
Blue Tone Reproduction Curve    : (Binary data 32 bytes, use -b option to extract)
Green Tone Reproduction Curve   : (Binary data 32 bytes, use -b option to extract)
Image Width                     : 4032
Image Height                    : 3024
Encoding Process                : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
Bits Per Sample                 : 8
Color Components                : 3
Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling            : YCbCr4:2:0 (2 2)
Run Time Since Power Up         : 6 days 3:08:51
Aperture                        : 1.8
Image Size                      : 4032x3024
Megapixels                      : 12.2
Scale Factor To 35 mm Equivalent: 6.1
Shutter Speed                   : 1/499
Create Date                     : 2021:06:24 15:41:18.019+02:00
Date/Time Original              : 2021:06:24 15:41:18.019+02:00
Modify Date                     : 2021:06:24 15:41:18+02:00
Thumbnail Image                 : (Binary data 7409 bytes, use -b option to extract)
GPS Altitude                    : 13.6 m Above Sea Level
GPS Latitude                    : 51 deg 33' 34.92" N
GPS Longitude                   : 6 deg 2' 39.15" E
Circle Of Confusion             : 0.005 mm
Field Of View                   : 69.4 deg
Focal Length                    : 4.2 mm (35 mm equivalent: 26.0 mm)
GPS Position                    : 51 deg 33' 34.92" N, 6 deg 2' 39.15" E
Hyperfocal Distance             : 2.04 m
Light Value                     : 12.3
Lens ID                         : iPhone 11 Pro back triple camera 4.25mm f/1.8
 


Hopefully you can make sense out of this ;-)
JeffTucker

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Re: again something strange This time with selfies
Posted: 29 Jun 21, 22:44   in response to: gvmelle in response to: gvmelle
 
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Notice what's different about the data on those two images? Look at the Orientation flag.

To help with debugging, please create a test album with just this one image. Choose Link to originals via scaled images, make the album, upload it somewhere, and give us a link to the album.
gvmelle

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Re: again something strange This time with selfies
Posted: 30 Jun 21, 08:59   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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Laza

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Re: again something strange This time with selfies
Posted: 30 Jun 21, 10:37   in response to: gvmelle in response to: gvmelle
 
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It seems jAlbum thinks this image is landscape oriented, and writes the width/height data this way.
            "image": {
                "path": "slides/IMG_6560.JPG",
                "width": 1000,
                "height": 750
            },
            "regions": "[\";0.473;0.326;0.196;0.261\"]",
            "original": {
                "path": "IMG_6560.JPG",
                "width": 3088,
                "height": 2316
            },
            "thumb": {
                "path": "thumbs/IMG_6560.JPG",
                "width": 340,
                "height": 260
            },
gvmelle

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Re: again something strange This time with selfies
Posted: 30 Jun 21, 11:44   in response to: Laza in response to: Laza
 
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I see now that in the camera settings of the iPhone is an option: "Mirror camera on frontside".
This result is
Orientation                     : Mirror horizontal and rotate 270 CW


if this setting is off the orientation will be as for backside portrait pictures:
Orientation                     : Rotate 90 CW


so that must make the difference.

Can that be solved in jAlbum, or should I correct this myself. Or not make selfiesto put in an jAlbum. ;-)
Laza

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Re: again something strange This time with selfies
Posted: 30 Jun 21, 12:09   in response to: gvmelle in response to: gvmelle
 
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I believe this could be fixed in jAlbum. I move the thread to Bug reports, so David can read about this.
JeffTucker

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Re: again something strange This time with selfies
Posted: 30 Jun 21, 12:31   in response to: Laza in response to: Laza
 
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I just grabbed the original image from gvmelle's test album, and it works properly in an album. I've tried various types of skins - Atom, Neptune, Tiger (which covers slide page, lightbox, and JSON) - and had no failures in any of them. I've let jAlbum scale the image, and I've also tried linking to the original, with the same result.

So, I'm puzzled about what's going on here.

ETA: As a final sanity check, I copied the original to my little Macbook Air, and tried it in a Tiger album, viewing it in Safari. Again, no problem at all. I can't produce a failure with this image.

And I doubled-checked - the original I've grabbed from the test album is the real thing, showing the same odd orientation flag as reported by the OP.
gvmelle

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Re: again something strange This time with selfies
Posted: 30 Jun 21, 14:00   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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Beta version 11.5 v 4 of macOS? I have jAlbum 23.2.8???

about system specs:
apple.awt.antialiasing	on
apple.awt.application.name	jAlbum
apple.awt.draggableWindowBackground	false
apple.awt.graphics.UseQuartz	true
apple.awt.interpolation	bilinear
apple.laf.useScreenMenuBar	true
com.apple.eawt.CocoaComponent.CompatibilityMode	false
com.apple.mrj.application.apple.menu.about.name	jAlbum
desktop.path	/Users/gideon/Desktop
file.encoding	UTF-8
file.separator	/ 
ftp.nonProxyHosts	local|*.local|169.254/16|*.169.254/16
http.nonProxyHosts	local|*.local|169.254/16|*.169.254/16
jalbum.file.encoding	UTF-8
jalbum.installation.dir	/Applications/jAlbum.app/Contents/app
jalbum.session	1625052921997
java.class.path	/Applications/jAlbum.app/Contents/app/JAlbum.jar
java.class.version	58.0
java.home	/Applications/jAlbum.app/Contents/runtime/Contents/Home
java.io.tmpdir	/var/folders/q3/xzrcgphd1j991jl59nsr69kw0000gn/T/ 
java.library.path	/Users/gideon/Library/Java/Extensions:/Library/Java/Extensions:/Network/Library/Java/Extensions:/System/Library/Java/Extensions:/usr/lib/java:.
java.runtime.name	OpenJDK Runtime Environment
java.runtime.version	14.0.2+12-46
java.specification.name	Java Platform API Specification
java.specification.vendor	Oracle Corporation
java.specification.version	14
java.vendor	Oracle Corporation
java.vendor.url	https://java.oracle.com/
java.vendor.url.bug	https://bugreport.java.com/bugreport/
java.version	14.0.2
java.version.date	2020-07-14
java.vm.compressedOopsMode	Zero based
java.vm.info	mixed mode
java.vm.name	OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM
java.vm.specification.name	Java Virtual Machine Specification
java.vm.specification.vendor	Oracle Corporation
java.vm.specification.version	14
java.vm.vendor	Oracle Corporation
java.vm.version	14.0.2+12-46
javafx.runtime.version	14+9
javafx.version	14
jdk.debug	release
jetty.git.hash	afcf563148970e98786327af5e07c261fda175d3
line.separator	
 
log.level	WARNING
my.pictures.path	/Users/gideon/Pictures
os.arch	x86_64
os.name	Mac OS X
os.version	10.16
path.separator	:
socksNonProxyHosts	local|*.local|169.254/16|*.169.254/16
sun.arch.data.model	64
sun.awt.enableExtraMouseButtons	true
sun.boot.library.path	/Applications/jAlbum.app/Contents/runtime/Contents/Home/lib
sun.cpu.endian	little
sun.font.fontmanager	sun.font.CFontManager
sun.io.unicode.encoding	UnicodeBig
sun.java.command	se.datadosen.jalbum.Main
sun.java.launcher	SUN_STANDARD
sun.jnu.encoding	UTF-8
sun.management.compiler	HotSpot 64-Bit Tiered Compilers
user.country	NL
user.dir	/ 
user.home	/Users/gideon
user.language	en
user.name	gideon
user.timezone	Europe/Amsterdam
	

I tried also Photoblogger 3.16.

I attach some screenshots. After clicking the enlarge arrows the picture rotated 90° to the left. Clicking to diminish the size kept that position.

Edited by: gvmelle on 30 Jun 2021, 14:01

Edited by: gvmelle on 30 Jun 2021, 14:02

JeffTucker

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Re: again something strange This time with selfies
Posted: 30 Jun 21, 14:17   in response to: gvmelle in response to: gvmelle
 
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I get the same results (i.e., correct) in Win10, macOS 11.4, with jAlbum 24, all browsers (all current versions). The enlarge arrows work as expected, as well, with no change in orientation.

Perhaps someone else can replicate the problem you're seeing. I can't.

But I think I know the problem is! I think it's the jAlbum integrated browser. If I preview with that browser, I get various types of misbehavior with this image. One more reason that one should never use it - do your previewing in a real browser.
RobM

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Re: again something strange This time with selfies
Posted: 30 Jun 21, 15:16   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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This EXIF flag rotation was a big issue twelve years ago, it looks like most OS’ and browsers have resolved the displaying of such images. The built in browser is an old beast, the kindest thing to do is put it down ;)
gvmelle

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Re: again something strange This time with selfies
Posted: 30 Jun 21, 15:49   in response to: RobM in response to: RobM
 
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I have put an testalbum on the internet. So no preview with internal jAlbum browser. I made a duplicate picture of the fist one and have set the orientation flag to 1 and then rotated the picture to portrait and mirrored it in jAlbum. After that the view is correct.

https://www.gvmelle.com/testalbum/index.html
davidekholm

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Re: again something strange This time with selfies
Posted: 30 Jun 21, 17:00   in response to: gvmelle in response to: gvmelle
 
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I'll investigate running the Chrome browser embedded instead of Java's dated embedded browser.
JeffTucker

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Re: again something strange This time with selfies
Posted: 30 Jun 21, 17:19   in response to: davidekholm in response to: davidekholm
 
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That's fine, but the OP is reporting this problem even when previewing in a regular browser. That's the part of it that I can't replicate. Can anyone else? His original image is included in the little one-image test album that he posted.
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