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tiger 8.3.0 navigation
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9 Aug 26, 21:29
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Tiger 8.3.0 navigation at the top-level has a Home button and Up/Back arrow when "Link to external homepage" is added. These Home button and Up/Back are redundant because there's no point is having top-level buttons that direct back to the top-level page. To get around this annoyance I added javascript to delete the Home button and Up/Back arrow from the top-level page while keeping the buttons on all lower levels.
I accomplished this by setting Pages → Link to external homepage → Address (URL) to my top-level URL, then using Tiger
Custom JavaScript:
JavaScript
$('.top-level .icon-home').hide();
•top-level .title .back-btn').hide();
This leaves the Home and Up navigation intact on lower-level pages while hiding both on the top-level page.
It would be nice if Tiger had a built-in option to accomplish this without custom JavaScript.
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Re: tiger 8.3.0 navigation
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9 Aug 26, 21:35
in response to: jimdubbet
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Would it not do what you want if you simply don't enter anything in Link to external homepage? After all, the top of the album isn't external.
ETA: Ah, I think I see the problem. There doesn't seem to be a setting in Tiger to include a link to the top level of the album from all subfolders, sub-subfolders, and so on. If you add a logo, it can serve that function - see Tiger > Site > Top bar > Functions > Logo. Maybe a little "home" icon would work for you?
ETA: But that, of course, puts the logo on the top level as well, where it links to itself. But no superfluous up-arrow at the top level, at least, which is an improvement.
Let's see what Laza has to say about this.  |
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Re: tiger 8.3.0 navigation
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9 Aug 26, 22:40
in response to: JeffTucker
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no, if Link to external homepage is blank then no home button is displayed.
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Re: tiger 8.3.0 navigation
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9 Aug 26, 22:46
in response to: jimdubbet
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no, if Link to external homepage is blank then no home button is displayed.
Exactly. The skin doesn't appear to have an option to display a link to the top level from deeper folder levels. Putting the URL to the top of album in the link to an external home page helps, but alas, puts an up-arrow at the top level of the album, which produces somewhat confusing navigation, since there is no "up" in that case.
Using a little logo icon might work well enough - give it a try. The attached one is white, so it might not work with the style you're using. |
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Re: tiger 8.3.0 navigation
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10 Aug 26, 13:30
in response to: jimdubbet
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Oops, I overlooked that. I'll fix this for the next version.
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Re: tiger 8.3.0 navigation
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11 Aug 26, 17:15
in response to: Laza
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Just installed the update, and maybe I'm blind, but I can't find a setting to provide a "back to the top of the album from a sub-sub-sub-folder."
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Re: tiger 8.3.0 navigation
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11 Aug 26, 17:22
in response to: JeffTucker
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I only fixed the unnecessary "back to top" button on the top-level page. I don't see if "back to the top of the album from a sub-sub-sub-folder" is really important.
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Re: tiger 8.3.0 navigation
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11 Aug 26, 17:28
in response to: Laza
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Perhaps I misunderstood, but I thought that's why the poster was using the link to an external home page, but plugging in the URL to the top of the album, instead of an external site. The effect of that is to provide a link to the top of the album from every other level.
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Re: tiger 8.3.0 navigation
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11 Aug 26, 17:57
in response to: JeffTucker
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The "Up arrow" already does that. It was just unnecessary on the top-level page. His code hides that button because of this.
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Re: tiger 8.3.0 navigation
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11 Aug 26, 18:17
in response to: Laza
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Hello. I'm the original poster. Please note I'm unable to view jalbum output at this time but from memory let me try to clarify.
The home page should not have up arrow because there is no up. Likewise, a home button on the home page is redundant and confusing. However, with multiple level sites each sub level should have both a home button and a one-level up arrow. Ideally, the home button should remain at the top menu bar on the left. The up arrows should remain where they are now.
I hope this helps to clarify.
Edited by: jimdubbet on 14 Aug 2026, 21:13
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Re: tiger 8.3.0 navigation
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16 Aug 26, 10:08
in response to: jimdubbet
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The "Up one level" button was never part of the top menu. It always had the "Back to top level" option, but adding the "External homepage" complicated things: the "Home" icon was used for this "external" home, while the "Up" icon was used for the top-level page. Naturally, the top-level button should not appear on the top-level page itself, and I've fixed this in the latest update.
The "Up one level" button was always displayed to the left of the title. It's analogous to the file explorer, where the "up one level" functionality is placed next to the folder name or the full path. The folder tree, by contrast, never includes the one-level-up button.
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Re: tiger 8.3.0 navigation
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16 Aug 26, 17:20
in response to: Laza
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Laszlo, firstly, thanks for all your efforts and time for creating this great skin. Regarding the few remaining navigation issues discussed earlier, I initially added the home url link to external homepage in an attempt to have a home button from any sub level except from the home page. Unfortunately adding this also caused the home page to have a return arrow as well as a home button which doesn't make any sense. Hearing that you plan to fix this anomily is great news. Looking forward to the next release. Jim.
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Re: tiger 8.3.0 navigation
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16 Aug 26, 22:11
in response to: jimdubbet
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I thought it might be helpful to lay out the scheme. In the internal jAlbum nomenclature, level 0 refers to the top level of an album, level 1 is the first rank of folders, level 2 is the next, and so on. The deepest level of folders, we can call level x.
An external link is the one you enter under Settings > Pages > Link to external home page. Top of album would link to level 0 of the album. Up arrow links to the level above the current one.
So, some suggestions about how to handle navigation:
- External link - if it exists, automatic icon either on level 0 only, or on levels 0-x.
- Top of album - optional icon either on levels 1-x, or levels 2-x. If it's shown on level 1, it's points to the same place as the up arrow (I default to this in my skins, just so the link icons don't keep changing from level to level, which I think is distracting).
- Up arrow - automatic on levels 1-x.
Tiger currently shows a "home" icon for external site on levels 0-x, and also uses an up arrow from level 0. (That wouldn't be my choice, but it's not irrational.)
It currently show an up arrow on levels 1-x, and on level 0 if there's an external link.
What appears to be lacking in Tiger is top of album. |
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Re: tiger 8.3.0 navigation
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17 Aug 26, 06:40
in response to: jimdubbet
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No need to use the External link for top-level functionality; it's already included in the top menu. If you don't have an external link, the skin will use the "Home" icon, not the "Up" arrow,
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Re: tiger 8.3.0 navigation
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17 Aug 26, 06:48
in response to: JeffTucker
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What appears to be lacking in Tiger is top of album.
Actually, it's the "Up one level" that is missing. The "Top of album" is always there, besides the top level.
The difference between our mental models is that mine regards the external home page as the Home page, not the top-level page, as most users use this feature to guide visitors back to the album collection page. Hence, it uses the "Home" icon for the external home page (when it exists) and the "Up" icon for the top-level page. Otherwise, the top-level page is regarded as "Home".
The "Up one level" button is always displayed along with the title, but never in the tree or dropdown menu navigation. |
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