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RuudWesterhout

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My working process need adaptation, how-to question
Posted: 17 Dec 25, 20:36
 
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Hello all,

I hope this is the right place to ask this question.
After a long time of 'no time to even open the application' I got started again. I noticed a thing which I don't like, but guess I am just doing it the wrong way, I hope you can steer me in the right direction, how to better do this.

Currently I have a folder on my hard-drive, say \2025 in which I place the photo's I'd like to place on my website. I use 'Organize' 'group by date' 'months' to get them sorted in sub-folders from the months these pictures have been taken.
One of the pictures ended up in October, but I would like to use it as the folder thumbnail. I copied it back to the folder \2025, set it to 'ignore' and then made it the folder thumbnail for the whole of 2025. For October I want to use another picture as a thumbnail.
When I create the website, all is as I want it to be.

Now after some time, I get additional pictures, which also belong to 2025. I place them in \2025 again and use the 'organize'-way, as written above. My thumbnail get 'moved' into October again. I have to copy it back etc etc, like written above. Is there a way how i can tell jAlbum like 'ignore it when creating the website AND egnore it while organizing the folder'?

I hope I explained my topic in an understandable fasion and any of you have some idea how to deal with it in a better / easier way.

Thanks for reading and for any reaction,

Ruud
RobM

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Re: My working process need adaptation, how-to question
Posted: 17 Dec 25, 21:48   in response to: RuudWesterhout in response to: RuudWesterhout
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You could mark the thumbnail in October as the one to be used as the folder thumbnail (more... menu then 'Use as folder thumbnail'). Then go up to the 2025 and select the folder for October and set that to be used as the folder thumbnail.
JeffTucker

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Re: My working process need adaptation, how-to question
Posted: 17 Dec 25, 22:02   in response to: RuudWesterhout in response to: RuudWesterhout
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I think you're doomed as long as you use the "Organize" functionality. There isn't any way to tell it to ignore some things - it's going to put them where they're supposed to be, based on the camera date. That image file contains information that places it in October, and by dog, that's where it's going to go! The function sees it currently sitting in 2025, and knows that's not right, so it "fixes" it.

Perhaps David can tweak the function so that it ignores excluded objects. I think that would be a reasonable thing to do.
RuudWesterhout

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Re: My working process need adaptation, how-to question
Posted: 18 Dec 25, 07:24   in response to: RobM in response to: RobM
 
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Hello Rob,

thanks, yes, that would work, but that would not be what I intended. I want the thumbnail for 2025 and October to differ.

I just got these ideas, like :
-would it be possible to remove EXIF-Data from the picture, so Organize 'cannot judge the corresponding month', hence might not move it
-would another file-format be able to be used. Still allowing it for thumbnail, but leading to be ignored from Organizing

best regards,
Ruud
RuudWesterhout

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Re: My working process need adaptation, how-to question
Posted: 18 Dec 25, 07:30   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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Hello Jeff,

'Doomed' sound great, don't know why. It just seems a clear answer, albeit not being the one I'd like to hear.
So thanks for that clear statement, your understanding of the function is understood and what I expected.

I do not know if I am the only one / first one, who has this interest, but it would be strange for David to change the functionality, just because of one users need. Of course maybe nobody would bother if an ignored file would stay in the original folder, in such case it would be an easy solution.
Except from that, I just wrote in my Reply to Rob, that I have the hope for other possible solutions leading to 'my required' result.

best regards,
Ruud
RobM

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Posted: 18 Dec 25, 12:25   in response to: RuudWesterhout in response to: RuudWesterhout
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Instead of using the organise menu use the thumbnail contextual menu. In the 2025 folder select all the images you want to organise, leave the image used as the folder thumbnail unselected. Now right click on any selected thumbnail and use the contextual menu to organise>group by date those images. Or instead of right clicking use the keyboard shortcut Alt/opt + Cmd/Cntrl + G
RuudWesterhout

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Re: My working process need adaptation, how-to question
Posted: 18 Dec 25, 12:28   in response to: RobM in response to: RobM
 
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This sounds very promising, thanks, I will try that asap and reply here again.
RuudWesterhout

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Re: My working process need adaptation, how-to question
Posted: 19 Dec 25, 13:16   in response to: RobM in response to: RobM
 
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Hello Rob,

this worked like a charm, thank you very much.
I marked your answer like correct, as it solved my issue.

I have a small additional question, but presume it better to be asked separately.

thanks again and best regards,
Ruud
davidekholm

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Re: My working process need adaptation, how-to question
Posted: 23 Dec 25, 09:09   in response to: RuudWesterhout in response to: RuudWesterhout
 
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Yes, perhaps ignoring excluded objects in the organiser would be preferable, or an option.
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