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CMCphotos

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How to use IPTC with jAlbums?
Posted: 1 Dec 25, 09:43
 
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I am trying to put title, author, sometimes date into the metadata of the photos in batches, and have jAlbums pick up the input.
I have tried various ways of doing this, and I can get the author field only in by using Exif Date Changer. Irfanview will accept all input, but nothing appears under Explorer properties or jAlbums captions or comments, while still showing in Irfanview IPTC when the file is re-opened.
I can feed the fields I want, one at a time, into Affinity under metadata File, not under metadata EXIF, and also directly into Explorer/Properties/Details. I obviously do not know enough about file structures.
I have spend weeks on this now and have to concede defeat.
Is there a W11 batch program that will input to the fields that jAlbums uses? Or a way of having jAlbums reading IPTC instead of whatever it reads? Or a program that will read IPTC fields and put the result in the fields I need?
This is probably a silly question with an easy answer. I am happy to be pointed to a previous thread or to instructions that I have failed to find.
Thanks
John Clube
RobM

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Re: How to use IPTC with jAlbums?
Posted: 1 Dec 25, 11:14   in response to: CMCphotos in response to: CMCphotos
 
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First, to make sure the metadata is shown on the album pages, make sure Settings>Advanced>Metadata>Include photographic data in generated pages is selected.

You can see what metadata jAlbum can use by photos by right-click on an image and selecting List metadata under Extensions

There are two ways of getting the metadata displayed.

As you’re using Tiger, in the appropriate caption template use ${meta.metadata as shown in list metadata}, use the name of the required metadata as listed.

There is a too that will process all images in a project, setting or appending the required metadata to jAlbum’s Title, comment, Keyword, Rating, Creator, Copyright text and Copyright URL. The tool can be found at https://jalbum.net/forum/thread.jspa?threadID=56657&tstart=0
CMCphotos

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Re: How to use IPTC with jAlbums?
Posted: 1 Dec 25, 12:26   in response to: RobM in response to: RobM
 
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RobM
That gets me a lot further, I can see what has got into jAlbums now. "Include photographic data in generated pages" is ticked in all albums. I am experimenting with skins, and am inclining to Fancy Box, Mercury or Neptune. I may want sub-folders.
I have not understood the metadata formatting, but I will work on it. My formatting simply yields what I have typed in, with what I want being in the xmp section.
I had another go with Irfanview, inputting the same data to the same photo twice but saving it under two different names. jAlbums picked up the data on both, Explorer picked up only some of the data, different between files and different from jAlbums. I must have an analogue computer, or very long lag times.
I will retain the skin changer for the future as I plan to change skins, but I am pretty sure all photo names are unique.
Thank you very much, I believe I can move forward now.
John Clube
JeffTucker

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Re: How to use IPTC with jAlbums?
Posted: 1 Dec 25, 12:50   in response to: CMCphotos in response to: CMCphotos
 
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In Mercury or Neptune, take a look at the Metadata tab in the skin settings. In those custom fields, you can enter any metadata identifier. The Extensions > List metadata output will show you their real names. If you want to display the number of Huffman tables (whatever those are), you can just enter Huffman.Number of Tables as the field name, and then put whatever label on it you want (or no label).

Windows Explorer is a metadata minefield. Windows tries to do you a lot of "favors," or at least what it thinks are favors. "Oh, I see you've entered this text in this metadata field. I'm sure you'll want the same thing propagated into these other, seemingly unrelated fields." It's a mess.
RobM

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Re: How to use IPTC with jAlbums?
Posted: 1 Dec 25, 14:04   in response to: CMCphotos in response to: CMCphotos
 
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If you haven’t already, have a look at the manual, https://jalbum.net/help/en/jAlbum
In particular read https://jalbum.net/help/en/jAlbum#Search_and_help and the glossary

If all else fails post in the forum, don’t spend a week trying to find out what you want to do.
CMCphotos

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Re: How to use IPTC with jAlbums?
Posted: 1 Dec 25, 15:34   in response to: CMCphotos in response to: CMCphotos
 
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I have indeed read the manual - after failing to get anywhere without reading it. jAlbums works beautifully, but nothing like I expected.
I will narrow down the skins to explore what they do. I do not know whether to look in the skin or the program to fix the next problem. Mercury does fine, and shows captions as well as comments, but only in browsers - nothing will make captions show in the android or ipad app.
Less that a week of experimenting should get me going with metadata, but the whole suite has so many features that it will take me years to learn.
Thank you very much for your help.
John Clube
JeffTucker

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Re: How to use IPTC with jAlbums?
Posted: 1 Dec 25, 15:39   in response to: CMCphotos in response to: CMCphotos
 
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Attachment mercuryPhone.png (2.0 MB)
Regular jAlbum captions - titles and comments - will show on any device. For the metadata captions, my skins all have a checkbox labeled Hide on small display. Screen real estate is precious on a phone, so you can opt to hide the metadata on them, or show it everywhere.

Screenshot of the result on an iPhone attached. "Badwater Basin" is the jAlbum title, and the rest of it is metadata.
CMCphotos

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Re: How to use IPTC with jAlbums?
Posted: 1 Dec 25, 17:45   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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I found "hide on small display" and it was indeed ticked. I will experiment with it unticked, and also with comments in popup.
Thank you very much for that, it saved hours.
John Clube
JeffTucker

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Re: How to use IPTC with jAlbums?
Posted: 1 Dec 25, 17:50   in response to: CMCphotos in response to: CMCphotos
 
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I probably should have that option de-selected as the default, rather than the other way around.

The popup option is good for things like EXIF info, which another photographer might find interesting, but about which most site visitors couldn't care less. It's different if you're using metadata to display other kinds of text information.
CMCphotos

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Re: How to use IPTC with jAlbums?
Posted: 1 Dec 25, 18:09   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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I am making good progress now in my experiments. Thank you again for your help in solving something that could have taken me a week.
John Clube
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Re: How to use IPTC with jAlbums?
Posted: 2 Dec 25, 00:22   in response to: CMCphotos in response to: CMCphotos
 
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As I said in another thread, it helps to know where all the bodies are buried. ;)
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