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Different images for motive/hero and folder on top and lower level hierarch
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17 May 25, 11:46
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With Tiger 6.9.2 it seems the feature to show different images for folder and theme/hero on both the top level and then folders level has disappeared, before I could have different images for all levels, for folder and motive, now no more? this is how it was: https://marucloud.de/alben/2024%20Sardinien%20-%20public/index.html, now I only get white space for motive/hero on the 2nd level - thanks.
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Re: Different images for motive/hero and folder on top and lower level hierarch
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18 May 25, 09:31
in response to: Calobra
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Please check if Folder thumbnail is selected from the Settings / Site / Hero / Background image box.
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Re: Different images for motive/hero and folder on top and lower level hierarch
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28 Jun 25, 09:39
in response to: Laza
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Since the last upgrade of Tiger and jAlbum, I have exactly the same problem with the header theme image, I have the latest versions. But it seems to only happen with the Firefox browser installed on all my phone, Mac and Windows computers, with Safari, Chrome and Edge it comes as it should.
And yes, the click is in the right place or it would not work for the other browsers and I haven't changed this.
Seems that the cache is not reloaded correctly, Shift Reload of the window doesn't change anything, but Shift Link in the window creates a new window Tab with the correct theme image for the pictures, but again it doesn't change when I change to another picture set, it has of course created a new cache. Safari, Chrome and Edge all work perfectly.
The question is, is this maybe a Firefox Problem? It happens on all my systems where Firefox is installed, phones and computers. Or is it a way the cache is being managed in jAlbum.
Unfortunately the jAlbum, Tiger and Firefox upgrades all came at the same time.
See https://www.pvpsi.ch/Album/
The Theme Image should change according to the set of pictures in the different albums.
regards,
Neil
Edited by: grockle on 28 Jun 2025, 10:03
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Re: Different images for motive/hero and folder on top and lower level hierarch
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28 Jun 25, 10:50
in response to: grockle
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Just tried your link in Firefox 14.0.1 on an iPad with OS18.5. The theme image changes for every subfolder as expected.
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Re: Different images for motive/hero and folder on top and lower level hierarch
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28 Jun 25, 11:26
in response to: RobM
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Problems occur with all these:
Firefox 140.0.2 (64-bit) MacBook Air
Firefox 140.0 Android Samsung S25 Ultra
Firefox 140.0 Android Samsung S21 Ultra
Firefox 140.0.2 (64-bit) Windows10
Firefox 140.0.2 (aarch64) MacBook Pro
Firefox 139.0.4 (64-bit) Windows11 OK !!!!
But when I upgraded to
Firefox 140.0.2 (64-bit) Windows11 the same problem as all the others.
It seems to be definitely a Firefox Problem
Other browsers are all working perfectly.
If it is working for you, then you have maybe not yet upgraded Firefox.
I have now reported it to Mozilla
Edited by: grockle on 28 Jun 2025, 11:26
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Re: Different images for motive/hero and folder on top and lower level hierarch
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28 Jun 25, 13:15
in response to: grockle
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I tried Firefox 14 first, then upgraded to the latest version which was updated yesterday. Both ok.
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Re: Different images for motive/hero and folder on top and lower level hierarch
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28 Jun 25, 13:48
in response to: RobM
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Rob, are you now on Firefox 14.0.2 (64bit) because it is only this version causing these problems. I have 2 Macs, two android, two windows10 and two windows11 in operation.
All started to exhibit the problem only after I upgraded to 14.0.2.
I hope it gets fixed in the next release. I'm waiting to see what Mozilla say.
I unfortunately don't have an iPad to test.
Edited by: grockle on 28 Jun 2025, 13:49
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Re: Different images for motive/hero and folder on top and lower level hierarch
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28 Jun 25, 14:50
in response to: grockle
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The iPad version is only 140.1, as yet there is no 140.2 available on the App Store. If an update comes out soon I will update it and try again.
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Re: Different images for motive/hero and folder on top and lower level hierarch
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28 Jun 25, 15:23
in response to: grockle
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Confirmed. This is a Firefox problem.
I see the problem in Firefox 140.0.2 for Windows. On my iPhone, the version is 140.1 (not 140.0.1), and the album is fine on there.
My suspicion is that, in a quest for greater "efficiency," they're relying too heavily on the cache when they shouldn't be. They're making the unwarranted assumption that a background image file with the same name should be automatically fetched from cache, even though it's in a different directory. Bad assumption.
I'd say you should wait for an update from Firefox.
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Re: Different images for motive/hero and folder on top and lower level hierarch
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28 Jun 25, 15:31
in response to: RobM
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I just tried two other old computers I found, one Windows10 and another Windows11,each had Firefox 139.0.4 on them and the website worked as it should, the header pages updated, but the moment I restarted them to upgrade actually restarting the page I had been on, I became stuck with the same header image, and it no longer changed.
That's a total of 2 Macs, 3 Android (S25, S21, Note8), 2 Windows 11, 3 Windows 10 all facing the same problem with https://www.pvpsi.ch/Album header image no longer refreshing in accordance with the sub-album pictures (Theme Image) after the update to 140.0.2.
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Re: Different images for motive/hero and folder on top and lower level hierarch
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28 Jun 25, 15:33
in response to: JeffTucker
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Thanks Jeff for your confirmation.
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Re: Different images for motive/hero and folder on top and lower level hierarch
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28 Jun 25, 15:40
in response to: grockle
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In my own skins, which use slightly different coding to handle the theme image, I also see some signs of overly-aggressive caching by Firefox. Even a CTRL-F5 doesn't shake it loose. But at least in my skins, if I head for the Firefox settings and clear the cached data and images, it finally corrects itself. In Tiger, Firefox's over-reliance on the cache seems to be impossible to defeat.
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Re: Different images for motive/hero and folder on top and lower level hierarch
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29 Jun 25, 20:28
in response to: Calobra
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I concur I'm experiencing this problem too. Windows 11 FIrefox 140.0. Works fine on Chrome. I spent several hours interacting with chatgpt to narrow this problem down, and it finally pointed me to this thread, so that's encouraging. It used to be fine in previous versions of Firefox (couldn't tell you which ones)..
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Re: Different images for motive/hero and folder on top and lower level hierarch
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30 Jun 25, 15:17
in response to: Calobra
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I could fix this buggy behavior of FF by adding an extra query string (e.g, folderimage.jpg?v=10) to the theme image filenames. I'll update the skin soon.
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Re: Different images for motive/hero and folder on top and lower level hierarch
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30 Jun 25, 16:58
in response to: Laza
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Thank you, thank you Laza! I was tearing my hair (what little I have left) out trying to figure out what was going on. I recently updated to jAlbum 37.6 (with bundled Tiger 6.10) and Firefox 140.0.02 from 139 at the same time so I wasn't sure who was the guilty party. When I reverted Tiger to 6.9.2 which I knew worked fine and the problem didn't resolve, I brought up Firefox's page inspector (CTL-SHIFT-I) and was surprised to see that it was evaluating the CSS url("folderimage.jpg") for the hero against a completely different previously visited base URL. I reverted Firefox to 139 and everything was fine, and since Chrome and Edge were fine also, I knew it had to be a new FF bug. I'm glad you were able to code a workaround, but wondering how many other websites are affected by such a major bug in a core CSS function.
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