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davidekholm

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Re: Folder descriptions have gone missing (in ZigZag)
Posted: 15 Nov 22, 12:36   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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Oh, my brain hurts :-(

It took me some time to remember just how special ZigZag is. It allows separate "comment" and "description", where "comment" is what's being shown on the parent level next to a folder, while "description" is what shows when you've entered that folder. This was broken after my "code cleanup". "description" never picked up what's being entered in the folder property panel's "Description" field. It should now be fixed in v29.1.10 (core update).

I haven't addressed the inconsistency between General settings-Description and Folder property panel-Description which you see when using ZigZag. It's always been there. Just remember to use the Folder property panel's "Description" field. It's what's being respected by ZigZag.
JeffTucker

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Re: Folder descriptions have gone missing (in ZigZag)
Posted: 15 Nov 22, 14:20   in response to: davidekholm in response to: davidekholm
 
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Oh, it's all coming back to me now.... I remember when that "feature" was introduced. I thought, "Now there's something that's guaranteed to produce confusion!" I vowed never to go near it.

I can see why ZigZag might benefit from having a "long description" and a "short description" for a folder. But the way it was implemented produces the weirdness that we've just encountered - fields that ordinarily show the same entered text in every other skin, but that can contain a mismatch in this one.

It probably should have been implemented as a customUI, available only for folder AO's, rather than pressing well-understood fields in the regular UI into doing double duty. And it should have been called something obviously different, like longdescrip.

On a related subject, why is descrip the only thing that's still stored in meta.properties, rather than in .info?
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Re: Folder descriptions have gone missing (in ZigZag)
Posted: 15 Nov 22, 14:20   in response to: davidekholm in response to: davidekholm
 
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Thank you David,

I just updated to 29.1.10 and it works like "before" !
davidekholm

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Re: Folder descriptions have gone missing (in ZigZag)
Posted: 15 Nov 22, 14:39   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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JeffTucker wrote:
Oh, it's all coming back to me now.... I remember when that "feature" was introduced. I thought, "Now there's something that's guaranteed to produce confusion!" I vowed never to go near it.

I can see why ZigZag might benefit from having a "long description" and a "short description" for a folder. But the way it was implemented produces the weirdness that we've just encountered - fields that ordinarily show the same entered text in every other skin, but that can contain a mismatch in this one.

It probably should have been implemented as a customUI, available only for folder AO's, rather than pressing well-understood fields in the regular UI into doing double duty. And it should have been called something obviously different, like longdescrip.


I agree.

On a related subject, why is descrip the only thing that's still stored in meta.properties, rather than in .info?

It shoud be phased-out in favor of .info. We also use meta.properties to keep track of image ordering
davidekholm

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Re: Folder descriptions have gone missing (in ZigZag)
Posted: 15 Nov 22, 14:42   in response to: guyd in response to: guyd
 
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guyd wrote:
Thank you David,

I just updated to 29.1.10 and it works like "before" !


Thanks for confirming. Sorry about the trouble.
JeffTucker

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Re: Folder descriptions have gone missing (in ZigZag)
Posted: 15 Nov 22, 14:44   in response to: davidekholm in response to: davidekholm
 
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It can be your "rainy day" project - untangle it, but also make sure that existing projects are automatically converted.

I haven't checked them all, but is any other skin using that feature?
davidekholm

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Re: Folder descriptions have gone missing (in ZigZag)
Posted: 15 Nov 22, 14:49   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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JeffTucker wrote:
It can be your "rainy day" project - untangle it, but also make sure that existing projects are automatically converted.

I haven't checked them all, but is any other skin using that feature?


It could be others. I'm really not sure.
JeffTucker

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Re: Folder descriptions have gone missing (in ZigZag)
Posted: 15 Nov 22, 15:02   in response to: davidekholm in response to: davidekholm
 
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I just did the check - among the current skins, ZigZag is alone. It's a safe bet that none of the legacy skins is using it, either.
davidekholm

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Re: Folder descriptions have gone missing (in ZigZag)
Posted: 15 Nov 22, 16:25   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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Thanks Jeff, you're awesome!
JeffTucker

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Re: Folder descriptions have gone missing (in ZigZag)
Posted: 15 Nov 22, 20:29   in response to: davidekholm in response to: davidekholm
 
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davidekholm wrote:
JeffTucker wrote:
On a related subject, why is descrip the only thing that's still stored in meta.properties, rather than in .info?

It shoud be phased-out in favor of .info. We also use meta.properties to keep track of image ordering


Yes, meta.properties is a bit of a relic.

But I wouldn't mess with comments.properties. I suspect there are a lot of users who access that file directly, in a text editor, or who actually generate that file from within another image-organizing app. They'd be very unhappy if they had to start dealing with XML files.
davidekholm

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Re: Folder descriptions have gone missing (in ZigZag)
Posted: 16 Nov 22, 12:24   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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On that subject, I wish we had stuck to json files. More compact, easy to read and faster to parse.
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