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Re: Possible fix to WebP out of memory condition
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28 Aug 25, 21:57
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Did you spoonerise the 95 to 59? 
Yes, I did. Same file. Too bad - that was my best theory about why I'd be seeing failures on two wildly different machines.
ETA: At least I am now seeing 37.7.5 for the jAlbum version number. That's progress, I suppose.
Just done another core update and got 37.7.5 too, no change otherwise. |
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Re: Possible fix to WebP out of memory condition
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28 Aug 25, 22:20
in response to: RobM
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Don't know if this a related problem, or something completely separate. But with 37.7.5, if I go to Help > About, I get some screen painting errors, and a console dump, attached.
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Re: Possible fix to WebP out of memory condition
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28 Aug 25, 22:32
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Don't know if this a related problem, or something completely separate. But with 37.7.5, if I go to Help > About, I get some screen painting errors, and a console dump, attached.
I don’t get any errors going to the About menu. What I do get when loading the AVIF project is 13,943 occurrences of ‘resetting entropy’. Whacky! |
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Re: Possible fix to WebP out of memory condition
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28 Aug 25, 22:36
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What I do get when loading the AVIF project is 13,943 occurrences of ‘resetting entropy’.
Well, if you don't reset entropy, it tends to spin out of control.
ETA: FWIW, I get the "About" console dump only if I load a project first - not an AVIF project, but any project. |
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Re: Possible fix to WebP out of memory condition
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28 Aug 25, 23:24
in response to: JeffTucker
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What I do get when loading the AVIF project is 13,943 occurrences of ‘resetting entropy’.
Well, if you don't reset entropy, it tends to spin out of control.
ETA: FWIW, I get the "About" console dump only if I load a project first - not an AVIF project, but any project.
I don’t get any errors no matter what I do before I do the about menu.
Let’s put it down to spooky action at a distance. |
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Re: Possible fix to WebP out of memory condition
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28 Aug 25, 23:28
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I've got it. It's 240V vs. 120V.
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Re: Possible fix to WebP out of memory condition
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29 Aug 25, 15:52
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Don't know if this a related problem, or something completely separate. But with 37.7.5, if I go to Help > About, I get some screen painting errors, and a console dump, attached.
Turns out this problem occurs if you use the Windows L&F since v37.7. I've addressed it for the upcoming release |
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Re: Possible fix to WebP out of memory condition
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29 Aug 25, 15:58
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Turns out the early AVIF support of the JDeli image package isn't handing some image types, and it isn't super fast either.
I've played with the official native code reference implementation (libavif) and have an experimental integration working in jAlbum here, both reading and writing. Now all AVIF images reads fast and well, but the writer is still very slow, in spite of being native code. It does produce very small and good looking resulting images though. Typically 30% the size of an equivalent JPEG.
AVIF seems to be the future format, just consider:
- Lossy + lossless
- Superior compression
- No license issues
- HDR support
- 8,10,12 bit per channel support
- Alpha support
- Animation support
- Wide browser support
- Supported by both Mac and Windows
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Re: Possible fix to WebP out of memory condition
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29 Aug 25, 16:01
in response to: davidekholm
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Compare these two, the AVIF one is less than half the size of the JPEG and better quality.
(both images generated by jAlbum beta)
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Re: Possible fix to WebP out of memory condition
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29 Aug 25, 16:26
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Turns out this problem occurs if you use the Windows L&F since v37.7. I've addressed it for the upcoming release
Yes, things go "back to normal" if I switch, for example, to the Flat Light L&F. |
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Re: Possible fix to WebP out of memory condition
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29 Aug 25, 16:28
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Compare these two, the AVIF one is less than half the size of the JPEG and better quality.
Interesting comparison, but I question the assertion that the AVIF is better quality. Side by side, the AVIF loses definition in the clouds (clouds are always a tough test - they usually look awful with the current WEBP processor). |
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Re: Possible fix to WebP out of memory condition
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29 Aug 25, 16:46
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Compare these two, the AVIF one is less than half the size of the JPEG and better quality.
Interesting comparison, but I question the assertion that the AVIF is better quality. Side by side, the AVIF loses definition in the clouds (clouds are always a tough test - they usually look awful with the current WEBP processor).
The sky gradients are far smoother with the AVIF image though, right? |
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Re: Possible fix to WebP out of memory condition
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29 Aug 25, 16:58
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I'm not seeing that. What I am noticing is that the trees on the horizon are blurry in the AVIF image. The same is true of the clouds - their edges are vague. Ditto for the whitecaps to the left, where they're seen against the turquoise water.
But I suppose it all comes down to a matter of personal preference. I've seen albums on here in which people have over-sharpened their JPG's. To them, they look "crisp," but to me, they look "brittle." And many Nikon owners have long been troubled by the tendency of Nikon engineers to gravitate towards somewhat softer focus when the camera converts from RAW to JPG.
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Re: Possible fix to WebP out of memory condition
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29 Aug 25, 17:05
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What viewers are you using? I'm using the default Windows and Mac/Finder viewer and to me, the AVIF image looks better in all regards.
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Re: Possible fix to WebP out of memory condition
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29 Aug 25, 17:08
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Which rendition looks better to you? I'm opening the two images in paint.net (Windows only app).
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