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Ability to 'Skip' generation of movies that already exist in album
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17 Apr 23, 23:20
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There are several challenges with the way jAlbum handles movie / video imports.
Today, at album creation, it doesn't seem to matter if the movie already exists in the album or not, jAlbum is going to add it again anyway taking up valuable time needlessly.
I understand jAlbum only seems to like MPEG videos or at least that what it coverts everything else too. It would be 'AWESOM' if jAlbum could natively handle more movie formats (.avi, .mov, other jpeg formats) then just copy them over and not have to convert everything. Again at the album creation time, there's a HUGE amount of time spent converting to the one format it likes. Web pages are very dynamic and robust, jAlbum should be able to handle most of the current standards out there!
I never quite understood this one, but when I create a NEW album, jAlbum converts EVERY movie to it's format. Most of my videos are in mepg which is what jAlbum seems to want, but it converts them no matter what. What's harder to understand is after I've created the album initially, and only add some images in many folders, jAlbum seems to have to reconvert the movies from those folders, even though nothing has changed. It would be nice if jAlbum could keep track of what movies are there and leave them be.
There's a TON of time wasted in these operations that should be handled much better.
Sorry this feature seemed a bit negative... not at all meant to be, just trying to help make and already fantastic tool... even better for all of us!
Thanks much,
Dave
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Re: Ability to 'Skip' generation of movies that already exist in album
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17 Apr 23, 23:32
in response to: NO-USER
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When you add a video to a project, you can provide almost any video format. jAlbum converts them all to MP4, because that's one of the only formats that's usable on all devices and operating systems.
It also processes the videos to reduce the file size. This can make a huge difference in the size of the files that site visitors have to tackle to be able to view the video, yet the conversion results in no detectable loss of quality.
The core processes the videos only once. When you hit Make Album again, at some later date, it doesn't process the existing videos again, unless you've been foolish enough to choose Force Remake. And the smart uploader doesn't upload them again, either.
You can tell jAlbum to use the video you've provided, without any conversion or downsizing, by right-clicking on its thumbnail and choosing Do not re-encode. Just be aware that this will result in an album that contains wildly oversized video files (I'm talking about file size, not frame dimensions), and video files that may not be viewable by all visitors. Caveat emptor.
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Re: Ability to 'Skip' generation of movies that already exist in album
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17 Apr 23, 23:44
in response to: JeffTucker
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Another thing is jAlbum makes the mp4 playable as soon as opened, some software produces mp4 that require the whole file to be downloaded before it can be played in a browser.
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Re: Ability to 'Skip' generation of movies that already exist in album
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17 Apr 23, 23:48
in response to: RobM
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Haven't run into that one in a while, so maybe the devices that produce videos have gotten smarter. But yes, jAlbum plants the moov atom at the beginning of the file, instead of the end, so the visitor can start watching the video while the rest of it is downloading in the background. With a little one-minute video, it doesn't matter, but when you're feeding longer stuff....
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Re: Ability to 'Skip' generation of movies that already exist in album
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26 Jun 23, 04:17
in response to: JeffTucker
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Thanks Jeff for the reply and information.
I'll have to take another look at it to see if the action is different. I've recently been do the makes in the background so you don't get to see the files it's working with.
Are you say that if I've made the album once (it's processed all the images and videos) that the next time I Make the album (not force remake) it WON'T process the videos again? When I watch the make and files / folders update ... the app normally FLYS very fast through the images... it pauses on the videos and counts them up percentage chunks at a time. It seems to be doing that for all videos, not just new ones.
Again it's been a bit since I've actually watched the updates in the foreground but I'll take a look again here shortly.
Thanks,
Dave
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Re: Ability to 'Skip' generation of movies that already exist in album
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26 Jun 23, 18:04
in response to: NO-USER
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Are you say that if I've made the album once (it's processed all the images and videos) that the next time I Make the album (not force remake) it WON'T process the videos again?
That's correct. It will process the videos again only if you've changed the settings on the Settings > Videos tab, like choosing a different quality level or resolution.
When I watch the make and files / folders update ... the app normally FLYS very fast through the images... it pauses on the videos and counts them up percentage chunks at a time. It seems to be doing that for all videos, not just new ones.
I've never seen it do that, and my family album, in particular, is loaded with videos.
Do a simple test. Create a project with just a couple of videos in it, and nothing else. Make the album. Now make it again. Is it processing the videos a second time? |
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Re: Ability to 'Skip' generation of movies that already exist in album
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28 Jun 23, 12:57
in response to: JeffTucker
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It would be nice too if Jalbum could reference already encoded movies elsewhere in the album to save space. I have the same video in a few folders eg:
Folder - Holdiay 2022
Folder - Kid videos
Folder - Best videos
If that makes sense - just having one encoded video rather than three. Maybe tags are the way to go I guess. |
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Re: Ability to 'Skip' generation of movies that already exist in album
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28 Jun 23, 17:05
in response to: mpbish
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I take note of this suggestion, but can't promise anything
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Re: Ability to 'Skip' generation of movies that already exist in album
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28 Jun 23, 17:22
in response to: davidekholm
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I take note of this suggestion, but can't promise anything
That really would require some very fundamental changes in the way jAlbum works. Same video three levels down on one branch of the project folders, and five levels down on another branch. It's processing the second page, and has to say, "Hey! I've seen this video before. Now where did I put that?"
Putting all MP4's at the root level of the output might get you there. But I suspect it would break some skins. |
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Re: Ability to 'Skip' generation of movies that already exist in album
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28 Jun 23, 17:28
in response to: JeffTucker
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The problem is users, who’s to say the same video will always have the same filename? 
Not thought it though, but would web locations work? It might require a double build, one for the video and one fo the links. |
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Re: Ability to 'Skip' generation of movies that already exist in album
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29 Jun 23, 00:45
in response to: RobM
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It's not a major request, so don't stress on it. Storage is becoming cheaper anyway, it's more a thing for efficiency and encoding time.
I do the same thing for images too btw.
Folder: London / Southbank
Ferrari_F50.jpg
Folder: Cars / Ferrari
Ferrari_F50.jpg
That's what I love the most about Jalbum. I can store an image once in a physical folder and then represent it in dozens of times in different folders or albums. I could even have
Folder: Blog / June 2023 that time I saw that Ferrari F50
Ferrari_F50.jpg
Videos take up more space of course on the build. |
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