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Cache Settings Not Honored
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21 Oct 22, 15:17
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I have tried to stop the creation of cache images.
Under Preferences->Album I have unchecked Cache thumbnails.
I have searched through other setting for the project and skin used and haven't found reference to cache.
Unless there is a requirement for cache, how would I disable them completely?
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Re: Cache Settings Not Honored
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21 Oct 22, 15:23
in response to: GHammer
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That setting refers to the thumbnail cache under <image directory>/.jalbum/cache. It's only used when jAlbum can't grab an embedded thumbnail within an image file (typically JPEGs)
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Re: Cache Settings Not Honored
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21 Oct 22, 15:34
in response to: davidekholm
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And those cached images are used only within the application - they aren't used for the album itself in any way. If you get rid of them, it just means your Explore view might be a little slower to come up, since it will have to extract thumbnails for its display every time.
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Re: Cache Settings Not Honored
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23 Oct 22, 16:05
in response to: GHammer
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I kind of understand the why the cache may be created.
As with my previous question on not having thumbnail, etc created in the source directory, I'd like no other image files to be created in the source directory.
I use digiKam and a couple of others and have to weed out these extra non-original files when I do.
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Re: Cache Settings Not Honored
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23 Oct 22, 16:24
in response to: davidekholm
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I thought I understood that settings use.
However, the cache is created only when I Make album.
If the files are used for creating the album, why would they be retained after the album building is complete and jAlbum has been exited?
If these files are thumbnails and I have asked not to create them, shouldn't that be honored?
Here's the stats on one album:
Size: 24.04 GB (7,161 objects)
Cache images created: 11
All are video thumbnails. Some m4v, some mov
Not all video files need a thumbnail created it seems.
Perhaps that is the avenue of attack?
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Re: Cache Settings Not Honored
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24 Oct 22, 09:52
in response to: GHammer
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I thought I understood that settings use.
However, the cache is created only when I Make album.
No, the cache directory under the .jalbum folders may be created anytime jAlbum loads images. This typically happens when jAlbum paints the thumbnails in its Explore view, but may happen at other times too.
If the files are used for creating the album, why would they be retained after the album building is complete and jAlbum has been exited?
Wrong assumption, and even IF they were created to assist the album build process, they might be kept in order to speed up future album builds.
If these files are thumbnails and I have asked not to create them, shouldn't that be honored?
I have to ask you: What's bothering you really? Is it that jAlbum creates ".jalbum" folders under your image folders? If that is the case, then use the "Mirror folders" approach as explained here .
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Re: Cache Settings Not Honored
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24 Oct 22, 14:45
in response to: davidekholm
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Or just leave the default settings alone. In its default mode, jAlbum copies images and videos to the project directory, instead of keeping links to them. In that mode, there will never be any .jalbum files in your source directories. My Pictures and Videos folders have no jAlbum content in them at all.
Disk space is cheap.
And I think you can safely assume that jAlbum never creates control and cache files just to keep itself busy or entertained. There really are reasons for the existence of these files.
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Re: Cache Settings Not Honored
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24 Oct 22, 15:05
in response to: davidekholm
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So, then, regardless of the settings, cache will/may be created. Begs the question of having the setting then.
My assumption is based on my experience, I can do anything except make album and no cache directory/files are created.
What's bothering me really? Seems a wee bit rude, but, the simple fact that I use other image tools that then pick up the jAlbum created files is what's bothering me really.
I shall now ask you the same. Why so opaque on this seemingly simple setting? "May and might" aren't answers to my question. Nor how a toggle for a behavior should work.
I'll just keep deleting the directories after using jAlbum as I have for some time now.
Much easier than getting an answer to what should have been a simple question on a setting.
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Re: Cache Settings Not Honored
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24 Oct 22, 15:10
in response to: GHammer
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You have been given two solutions to this "problem," but you are refusing to use either of them. Either set jAlbum to copy objects to the project directory, or use the mirror option. Why do you reject both solutions?
Deleting the cache files is the wrong "solution" - those files exist for a reason.
Or do you just want to keep arguing?
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Re: Cache Settings Not Honored
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24 Oct 22, 15:11
in response to: JeffTucker
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Disk space, speed of my system, OS, none of those are the issue here.
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Re: Cache Settings Not Honored
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24 Oct 22, 15:13
in response to: JeffTucker
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Thanks again for the illuminating answer.
But, what exactly does the setting do then?
I didn't realize that getting clarification on an option that doesn't seem to do what it says was arguing.
Must keep that in mind henceforth.
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Re: Cache Settings Not Honored
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24 Oct 22, 15:13
in response to: GHammer
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You still haven't answered the question. Why are you refusing to use either solution to this imagined problem?
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Re: Cache Settings Not Honored
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24 Oct 22, 15:23
in response to: JeffTucker
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I've been given workarounds, not 'solutions'.
Though disk space is not the issue of my question, why would I want to spend disk space to 'solve' something that the setting (that is the issue) should solve?
The cache files created are 1.61 MB
The source directory is 46.2 GB
Perhaps that duplication is fine in your world, but it's silly in mine.
The cache files, in this case, do not continue to exist for any reason except that they are not removed on jAlbum exit. None. The program still opens, functions, does all it should without them. Doesn't make a difference in scrolling through the project, saving, changing, making.
Why do you continue to do anything except deal with a setting that says one thing and doesn't do it? That is a textbook example of argumentative behavior.
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Re: Cache Settings Not Honored
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24 Oct 22, 15:26
in response to: JeffTucker
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Imagined?
Yes, I just photoshopped this mockup of the preferences.
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Re: Cache Settings Not Honored
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24 Oct 22, 15:36
in response to: GHammer
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The setting does exactly what it says it will do. It doesn't create cached thumbnails for images that lack embedded thumbnails.
It doesn't apply to videos. It doesn't say that it does.
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