jAlbum 20.1 beta for testing ...

davidekholm

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Re: jAlbum 20.1 beta for testing
Posted: 11 May 20, 21:34

in response to: karlmistelberger

Hi. b11 is now ready. I hope this is the last beta before release.

Changes:

jAlbum now supports copy-drag operations* allowing quick and easy duplication of objects
Any copy operation now includes whatever additional metadata jAlbum has stored in the corresponding .info files and in comments.properties
Skins may now provide their own empty page template file
The lifeboat.zip file's embedded project file now always reflects the current settings during album build (was previously relying on a copy of the project file)

Note: A copy-drag is a drag and drop operation where the dragged object is copied instead of moved. It's activated by holding down the right qualifier key before or during a drag operation (ALT on Mac, CTRL on Windows)

AndreWolff

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Registered: 14-Dec-2007

Re: jAlbum 20.1 beta for testing
Posted: 11 May 20, 22:19

in response to: davidekholm

davidekholm wrote:

Skins may now provide their own empty page template file

Please explain this, because I think I can do that already with the released version.

davidekholm

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Re: jAlbum 20.1 beta for testing
Posted: 11 May 20, 22:36

in response to: AndreWolff

AndreWolff wrote:

davidekholm wrote:

Skins may now provide their own empty page template file

Please explain this, because I think I can do that already with the released version.

If your skin provides a templates/empty-page.htt, then that file will be used as base for the empty page instead of the file from jAlbum's system/empty-page.htt location.

AndreWolff

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Re: jAlbum 20.1 beta for testing
Posted: 12 May 20, 09:12

in response to: davidekholm

davidekholm wrote:
If your skin provides a templates/empty-page.htt, then that file will be used as base for the empty page instead of the file from jAlbum's system/empty-page.htt location.

My skins do have already for years a template file Empty_page.htt which was working OK so I don't understand this point in this new release.

David, I think you introduce in this release again, like in most recent releases, features which most users, including myself, are not going to use:
Professional photographers, mostly taking photos in RAW format, are using programs like Lightroom and ON1 to enter and maintain the metadata.
Hobby photographers don't care about metadata or even don't know what metadata are.

And again I can't find these new features in the 'Feature request' list. It is even not in jGromits feature request list, so why do we have a 'Feature request' list?

Here I did give you a hint to introduce a useful metadata function for all users.

RobM

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Registered: 4-Aug-2006

Re: jAlbum 20.1 beta for testing
Posted: 12 May 20, 11:16

in response to: AndreWolff

AndreWolff wrote:

davidekholm wrote:
If your skin provides a templates/empty-page.htt, then that file will be used as base for the empty page instead of the file from jAlbum's system/empty-page.htt location.

My skins do have already for years a template file Empty_page.htt which was working OK so I don't understand this point in this new release.

In the ‘Add’ drop down menu, new page defaults to offer an ‘Empty page’ for all skins. Users of your skins will see two empty page templates but after this update if you rename your template from Empty_page.htt to empty-page.htt then users will see only one empty page entry; much less confusing.

JeffTucker

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Registered: 31-Jan-2006

Re: jAlbum 20.1 beta for testing
Posted: 12 May 20, 14:55

in response to: RobM

RobM wrote:
In the ‘Add’ drop down menu, new page defaults to offer an ‘Empty page’ for all skins.

And it shouldn't. I wish this could be taken care of. If the skin indicates, in its skin.properties file, that it doesn't support extra pages (fullSiteSupport=false), this context menu item should be absent, or at least grayed out.

RobM

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Re: jAlbum 20.1 beta for testing
Posted: 12 May 20, 15:26

in response to: JeffTucker

jGromit wrote:

RobM wrote:
In the ‘Add’ drop down menu, new page defaults to offer an ‘Empty page’ for all skins.

And it shouldn't. I wish this could be taken care of. If the skin indicates, in its skin.properties file, that it doesn't support extra pages (fullSiteSupport=false), this context menu item should be absent, or at least grayed out.

Maybe the icon should change (to indicate an ‘include’ object) and the default be web location, that always exists as a choice and probably gets more use.

AndreWolff

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Re: jAlbum 20.1 beta for testing
Posted: 13 May 20, 09:42

in response to: davidekholm

	jAlbumResult.JPG (460.7 KB)
	jAlbumImgaeDir.JPG (196.9 KB)

I think you did introduce a big problem in version 20.1b13:

My images and my project file are in diurectory I:\Pictures\OnzeTuin\Onze_Tuin
see attached screen-shot jAlbumImgaeDir.JPG.

In the album made with this new version the the subfolder 'Bloemen' absent in the resulting albem, see screen-shot jAlbumResult.JPG

I did not see this problem in 20.0.6

davidekholm

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Re: jAlbum 20.1 beta for testing
Posted: 13 May 20, 09:47

in response to: AndreWolff

AndreWolff wrote:
I think you did introduce a big problem in version 20.1b13:

My images and my project file are in diurectory I:\Pictures\OnzeTuin\Onze_Tuin
see attached screen-shot jAlbumImgaeDir.JPG.

In the album made with this new version the the subfolder 'Bloemen' absent in the resulting albem, see screen-shot jAlbumResult.JPG

I did not see this problem in 20.0.6

I assume this is because you have a "res" folder inside the "Bloemen" sub folder. jAlbum ignores sub folders that contain a "res" folder.

AndreWolff

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Re: jAlbum 20.1 beta for testing
Posted: 13 May 20, 09:55

in response to: davidekholm

davidekholm wrote:
I assume this is because you have a "res" folder inside the "Bloemen" sub folder. jAlbum ignores sub folders that contain a "res" folder.

Removing the res folder does indeed solve the problem.

But because this problem was absent in the released version, you should give a warning that the res folder is giving problems in the new version!

I think you will see this problem for users, like me, who combined original single albums in a new album with folders.

Edited by: AndreWolff on 13-May-2020 10:14

AndreWolff

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Re: jAlbum 20.1 beta for testing
Posted: 13 May 20, 10:00

in response to: RobM

TwoTimesEmptyPagel.JPG (82.5 KB)

RobM wrote:
In the ‘Add’ drop down menu, new page defaults to offer an ‘Empty page’ for all skins. Users of your skins will see two empty page templates but after this update if you rename your template from Empty_page.htt to empty-page.htt then users will see only one empty page entry; much less confusing.

Well I renamed my Empty_page.htt file into empty_page.htt, but that does not help.
Version 20.1b13 still shows two empty page menu items, see attached screenshot.

AndreWolff

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Re: jAlbum 20.1 beta for testing
Posted: 13 May 20, 10:30

in response to: davidekholm

This beta version crashed with big albums like my Algarve album:

An unexpected error occurred. Please see detailed description below:
 
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
	at java.base/java.util.Arrays.copyOf(Unknown Source)
	at java.base/java.lang.AbstractStringBuilder.ensureCa

where I changed already the init file:

Virtual Machine Parameters=-Xms64M -Xmx6400M -Djalbum.installation.dir="C:\Program Files\jAlbum\" -Dmy.pictures.path="K:\Users\Andre\Afbeeldingen\" -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djna.nosys=true -XX:+UseParallelGC

This problem is absent in released version 20.0.6

davidekholm

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Re: jAlbum 20.1 beta for testing
Posted: 13 May 20, 10:36

in response to: AndreWolff

AndreWolff wrote:

Well I renamed my Empty_page.htt file into empty_page.htt, but that does not help.
Version 20.1b13 still shows two empty page menu items, see attached screenshot.

It's "empty-page.htt", not "empty_page.htt"

davidekholm

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Re: jAlbum 20.1 beta for testing
Posted: 13 May 20, 10:37

in response to: AndreWolff

AndreWolff wrote:

davidekholm wrote:
I assume this is because you have a "res" folder inside the "Bloemen" sub folder. jAlbum ignores sub folders that contain a "res" folder.

Removing the res folder does indeed solve the problem.

But because this problem was absent in the released version, you should give a warning that the res folder is giving problems in the new version!

I think you will see this problem for users, like me, who combined original single albums in a new album with folders.

I could print a discrete console window warning, and naturally add this info to the release notes

Edited by: davidekholm on 13-May-2020 10:37

AndreWolff

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Re: jAlbum 20.1 beta for testing
Posted: 13 May 20, 11:21

in response to: davidekholm

TwoTimesEmptyPagel.JPG (66.5 KB)

davidekholm wrote:
It's "empty-page.htt", not "empty_page.htt"

OK I changed the name, but this does not solve the problem, see attached screenshot