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fotofun2

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Overlay of jAlbum banner ad is negated by images plus sharing error
Posted: 3 Nov 19, 12:24
 
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All my albums place the jAlbum banner ad at the bottom of the screen. This option is not available with Lucid. However, while converting from Projector to Lucid for testing, the jAlbum banner came along with the change of themes and then placed it at the top of the page. The result is that it gets covered up by a lot of stuff or it covers a lot of stuff except when attempting to share as well as when the index page is shown and is partially shown with the drop down menu for Share. I'd like the option of being able to place that banner at the bottom of the page because it is then out of the way of the Header Title and anything else which takes place at the top.

In addition, the sharing error (see a previous post) also pops up in Chrome.

However, Twitter, Pinterest, and LinkedIN work fine. Email does nothing as if there is a null statement (/#) in the code.
fotofun2

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Re: Overlay of jAlbum banner ad is negated by images plus sharing error
Posted: 3 Nov 19, 12:48   in response to: fotofun2 in response to: fotofun2
 
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Here's a screen shot of the settings. Clearly shows to be correct though the process of making the Album, put it at the top of the page rather than as noted "Will be added at the end of the page." For the placement of the jAlbum banner advertisement.
JeffTucker

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Re: Overlay of jAlbum banner ad is negated by images plus sharing error
Posted: 3 Nov 19, 13:58   in response to: fotofun2 in response to: fotofun2
 
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A quote from Laza, from this thread: https://jalbum.net/forum/thread.jspa?threadID=55594

..code to page bottom and such might be removed. It's a full screen layout and there's no place for extra content.

I agree - this option should be removed from the skin. There's just no place for extra material on the page.
JeffTucker

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Re: Overlay of jAlbum banner ad is negated by images plus sharing error
Posted: 3 Nov 19, 14:54   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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Attachment largeMonitor.png (918.0 KB)
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There's a bit of conundrum, here, and it afflicts any skin that wants to control the entire page layout (like most of Laza's skins). There are two types of additional material that a user might want to plant at the bottom of the <body> section.

The first is non-display material, like the Javascript for something like a stat counter. That's no problem - it doesn't damage the page layout.

But planting additional display material at the bottom of the page really doesn't work. Even on a large monitor, it often creates a visual mess - see largeMonitor.png. And on a phone, the results are truly disastrous - see the two phone screenshots.

Maybe what these kinds of skins should offer is a place to stash added non-display material, but not allow that material to show on the page, perhaps by wrapping it in a display:none <div>.
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Re: Overlay of jAlbum banner ad is negated by images plus sharing error
Posted: 3 Nov 19, 15:35   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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Attachment layout1.jpg (100.1 KB)
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Finally, there's a simple question of aesthetics. Which one of these screenshots shows a clean, attractive presentation, and which one is a jumbled visual mess? There are no prizes for getting the correct answer. ;)
fotofun2

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Re: Overlay of jAlbum banner ad is negated by images plus sharing error
Posted: 5 Nov 19, 22:40   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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That banner ad, which was designed by Anders for me, works great on my shopping cart albums which use the Saturn skin both on my smart phone (using the Internet URL) and my desktop monitors. However, the banner as it is currently designed makes for a terrible presentation, as you concluded, on smart phone displays. It should shrink just as all the other images shrink. Unfortunately, the code being used for the banner display doesn't provide the correct scripting to be responsive. I'll have to look into that to see what needs to be done for it to function correctly in the custom coding areas. Matter of fact the entire jAlbum website looks bad on a smart phone with a 6 inch screen - I can only imagine what it does on an older smart phone. Tablets, on the other hand probably should be used instead of a smart phone. Maybe future devices for Android and iOS will be able to handle the Internet URL better. For now, I'm recommend people to use the jAlbum app rather than a browser to view my stuff.
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Re: Overlay of jAlbum banner ad is negated by images plus sharing error
Posted: 5 Nov 19, 23:01   in response to: JeffTucker in response to: JeffTucker
 
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I'm using a 27 inch monitor to view the same page as your largeMonitor.png portrays. I have a scroll bar on the right side of the image and it moves the banner into position nicely rather than what your image displays. I can also view it in a similar manner on my 21 inch monitor. On the phone, not so easily as the Android OS and the Samsung browser won't provide the same opportunity of a scroll the way Windows provides.

As with most websites, when viewing any web page using the phone browser to view the URL website, it is best viewed in landscape mode rather than portrait mode as your phone1 and phone2 depicts. Nevertheless, the banner ad looks really bad regardless in both modes as it is not responsive. I'll look into that to see if it the javascript can be added to the Custom windows within the skin to force the banner to shrink. Still, for the Saturn skin I'm using for the shopping carts, the banner functions quite well in landscape mode on a phone. http://jalbum.net/en/browse/user/album/1867212 you'll have to pinch the screen to make it smaller in landscape mode.
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Re: Overlay of jAlbum banner ad is negated by images plus sharing error
Posted: 6 Nov 19, 08:15   in response to: fotofun2 in response to: fotofun2
 
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I must admit I don't want the skin to cater for extra content, as the pictures already cover the full screen. Perhaps a fixed positioned layer could work, but I'd rather not dare users. This is a prescription for visual chaos and usability issues. Regarding the jAlbum banner, the normal back links at the bottom should be enough.
fotofun2

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Re: Overlay of jAlbum banner ad is negated by images plus sharing error
Posted: 6 Nov 19, 14:45   in response to: Laza in response to: Laza
 
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I don't want the banner on every image display. Only on the index.htt which is used to index any sub-folders. The banner ad gets very old and annoying quickly if it is on every image. That index.htt is fairly clean as, for my albums, I don't have any physical images in that area. However, the only thumb images which show are in the small circles which are for the next level down where the slide actually takes place.

None of the standard banner images located at https://jalbum.net/en/banners work on the any of the new skins because they really mess up the displays. That is the reason why I requested a smaller banner to use which would minimize the disruptions.

So as not to poison the albums with what we're seeing, when I suggest people visit those albums, for desk top systems as well as labtops/tablets, I suggest using the URL. Otherwise, I try not to recommend using a smart phone for viewing and suggest they download the jAlbum app. Sometimes the app gets me in trouble because it doesn't pickup hot linking of an image, at least not yet. Maybe someday David will get around to fixing that issue if enough people want it.

For now, however, Lucid in its current configuration won't work for me and what I want to do. Maybe it might evolve and if so, I'll test it again. I'll stick with Projector because that skin is quite flexible and I'm learning new tricks that it can do as it evolves.
JeffTucker

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Re: Overlay of jAlbum banner ad is negated by images plus sharing error
Posted: 6 Nov 19, 14:59   in response to: Laza in response to: Laza
 
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Laza wrote:
... visual chaos....

For at least some users, that seems to be a feature, not a bug.
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