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Overwrite protection?
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20 Jul 16, 18:28
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I'm sorry, it's about time for me to have another hiccough. I've been updating my web site on a regular basis recently - new images every few days. This afternoon I added a .PNG file to go with a video - this is about the 70th to go on the site and it's normally fine. I haven't done one of these for a few months though. I'm using the Turtle skin and after making the album, I try smart upload, but the album size just goes round and round and then I get a warning about overwrite protection and I need to upload to an empty folder. I'm using an older version of jAlbum 12.7.2 - I never can tell if I should upgrade or not. If it helps, then my web site is http://www.elements.uk.com/ . I have tried searching the forum, but I find it hard to understand a lot of the threads. I've said before, I'm a photographer, not a web site expert. Many thanks in advance
It now looks as though it did upload on an earlier attempt, even though it gave me a different error message. Is this latest error message about overwrite protect simply because there isn't anything new to upload?
Edited by: Zooey on 20-Jul-2016 18:54
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Re: Overwrite protection?
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20 Jul 16, 20:04
in response to: Zooey
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Do you know the exact error message, did you grab a copy of the screen?
Did you check the location you were uploading to and was it correct?
see General information on uploading to your own site for more information if needed.
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Re: Overwrite protection?
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20 Jul 16, 22:08
in response to: Zooey
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Re: Overwrite protection?
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21 Jul 16, 09:26
in response to: JeffTucker
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I've read all that and thank you very much. I don't understand the need for protection, but regardless, I have the manifest.jmf in the same folder (public_html), so apparently I shouldn't get the warning (even though I'm using an earlier version of jAlbum than the 12.3 quoted in your link).
See screen shot of my folder structure.
http://www.elements.uk.com/ShutterNutters/Folder%20structure.jpg
I can't get a screen shot of the error message for some reason, but it says "Uploading to this folder would overwrite existing web files. Ensure you are uploading to an empty folder". I just tried a dummy new video to test and it still doesn't work.
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Re: Overwrite protection?
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21 Jul 16, 15:46
in response to: Zooey
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In your old post: it was suggested that you put your jAlbum generated albums in a subfolder of 'public.html'. That might stop the error messages. Is it something you would consider trying?
The jAlbum team are on holiday, jGromit (forum volunteer) who responded before is also on holiday, so getting replies might take a bit longer than usual.
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Re: Overwrite protection?
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21 Jul 16, 20:16
in response to: Zooey
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jGromit noticed that the file manifest.jfm has a zero file size. I checked the file and it is there, no 404 missing file error, but there is no content. Try deleting that file and uploading again, then check if the file has a size greater than zero. If it does then try another upload, do you still get an error?
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Re: Overwrite protection?
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21 Jul 16, 21:17
in response to: RobM
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I deleted the file, tried another upload and still get the same error. I no longer have the manifest file, zero size or not. I asked my husband about moving the web site into a sub folder of public_html, but he said the web site would no longer work on elements.uk.com, but instead would have /web_site at the end. I didn't really want this and I've had no problems since my earlier post.
I'm still confused. If I DID create a sub folder for the web site, then surely the same thing would happen? The uploading would want to overwrite files, which doesn't seem possible any more...
Just upgraded to jAlbum 13.3 and the problem hasn't gone away
Edited by: Zooey on 21-Jul-2016 21:55
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Re: Overwrite protection?
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21 Jul 16, 22:59
in response to: Zooey
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jAlbum is just being very cautious. When it sees that you're uploading your album to the root of your website (i.e., immediately under public_html), it gets nervous. It's afraid that you have some sort of non-jAlbum home page sitting there, and it doesn't want to overwrite it, since you might not have a backup for it.
But in your case, you really do want your album to be at the top of your domain. So just tell jAlbum to ignore the warning, and go ahead and upload the album to public_html.
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Re: Overwrite protection?
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21 Jul 16, 23:04
in response to: Zooey
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As of now, 21:52 UK time, for http://www.elements.uk.com I am seeing a list of files: Back up images for desktop/
Back up movies/
Back up photographs/
Home/
Katzenworld/
PF sig.jpg
ShutterNutters/
architecture/
holi/
landscapes/
nature/
trips/
Your album is at http://www.elements.uk.com/Home/
It doesn't have the manifest.jfm file, it should if you used jAlbum to upload your album to the subfolder 'Home'. Are you getting any error messages, a small yellow warning triangle at the bottom right to jAlbum's window, or in the system console (F7)?
Moving the album to a subfolder leaves two options, a landing splash page at http://www.elements.uk.com/index.html or a redirect to your Home folder - http://www.elements.uk.com/Home/index.html.
A redirect page was shown in one of the posts above, but if you want help on making one post back.
The reason why a warning was given when uploading to the root level (public_html) was to make sure that is what users really wanted to do. Many jAlbum users already have a website and just want to include an album, uploading to the root would overwrite their existing website.
Resolving what is happening might need someone from jAlbum getting FTP access to your site, so they can see exactly what is happening. If you are happy to do that David or someone else from jAlbum will post back here.
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Re: Overwrite protection?
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21 Jul 16, 23:06
in response to: RobM
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The other alternative is simply to use the standalone FTP client program of your choice, like FileZilla, Just upload everything in the album project's output directory to your public_html directory. Tell the FTP client to upload only new or changed files, so you don't have to figure out which bits and pieces need to be uploaded.
Way simpler.
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Re: Overwrite protection?
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21 Jul 16, 23:33
in response to: JeffTucker
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OK - you caught me mid-change. I deleted the old site and created a sub-folder under public_html called Home. The web site now works fine and I shouldn't have to bother you again (for a while)... BUT.
My favicon doesn't work anymore. Hubby is better at these things than I am. We tried moving it from Home up to public_html, but it doesn't like either. 
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Re: Overwrite protection?
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22 Jul 16, 20:57
in response to: RobM
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I just wanted to thank everyone. You wouldn't believe it, but my first couple of web sites were built by hand by myself. I knew nothing about code of course. Hubby started me off and I just carried on by trial and error. I never did get the proper way of doing things though and I'm easily confused.
I've put the web site in a folder, which tidies everything up nicely and since upgrading to jAlbum 13.3, I don't expect any more problems for a while. I've done a redirect page - I just needed to understand the purpose and now I do. I've fixed the favicon too 
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Re: Overwrite protection?
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22 Jul 16, 23:37
in response to: Zooey
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I knew nothing about code of course. Hubby started me off and I just carried on by trial and error. I never did get the proper way of doing things though and I'm easily confused.
You are not on your own there  , and it doesn’t get any easier trying to keep up with responsive pages, swipe controls, javaScript etc.
I've put the web site in a folder, which tidies everything up nicely
Glad you got it all sorted out.
Something to consider: Since visitors going to http://www.elements.uk.com get redirected to http://www.elements.uk.com/Home is it worth having the 'Back to home page up arrow icon' shown? Clicking it only reloads the page, you could remove the link by removing the homepage information in Settings/Pages.
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