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TexARC

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4K Res Laptops with Win10 don't handle elements well
Posted: 24-Apr-2016 19:58
 
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Just got a new laptop - has 4k (3840x2160) resolution. There are elements in jAlbum that have, I suspect, hard-coded heights in pixels, rather than a fluid or dynamic setting. Sometimes I can guess what the displayed text is, other times it is too small. Ctrl+ doesn't help, and using Win10's "compatibility troubleshooter" does not affect these elements. CHanging the resolution of the screen using the graphics adapter's utility does not help - some text gets too large, while the spacing problems and the "scrunching together" vertically of somethings remains just as mangled. I've done a small screen capture that demonstrates a couple of the areas that do not display well, or display so very small I have to use a magnifying glass to read. :) Perhaps there is a setting, or a .manifest file, I can use to remedy this? Has anyone else been able to run jAlbum on a 4K resolution screen without the problems I have?

Edited by: TexARC on 24-Apr-2016 14:15, added an additional example of screen text mal-display.
davidekholm

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Re: 4K Res Laptops with Win10 don't handle elements well
Posted: 25-Apr-2016 12:11   in response to: TexARC in response to: TexARC
 
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Thanks for reporting. That certainly looks bad. I'll bring this up with Oracle. jAlbum isn't as hard coded to pixels as it may seem, cause on HiDPI Mac screens it actually looks fine. On HiDPI Mac screens, a scaling factor of 2 is applied to all drawing operations, ensuring that you don't get those tiny icons and graphics details (See attached screenshot). I just hope Oracle will apply the same scale factor technique on HiDPI Windows screens too.
AndreWolff

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Re: 4K Res Laptops with Win10 don't handle elements well
Posted: 30-Jun-2017 14:30   in response to: davidekholm in response to: davidekholm
 
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I just installed jAlbum 14 on my new laptop with resolution 3840x2160 and it is impossible to use because the characters are far too small, see enclosed screen shots.

How can I make the text readable?

Neither of my other installed programs shows this effect!!

Edited by: AndreWolff on 30-Jun-2017 14:37

I could solve the problem by switching in Preferences the Look and Feel from Darcula to Windows!

I think it is not a good idea to use Darcula as default Look and Feel !!

Metal shows the same problems.

With the Windows Look and Feel is the Splash window still unreadable.
wolf-skate

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Re: 4K Res Laptops with Win10 don't handle elements well
Posted: 30-Jun-2017 14:46   in response to: AndreWolff in response to: AndreWolff
 
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AndreWolff wrote:
I just installed jAlbum 14 on my new laptop with resolution 3840x2160 and it is impossible to use because the characters are far too small, see enclosed screen shots.
How can I make the text readable?

well I wanted to adapt font size as well
the obvious = briefly looking into
http://jalbum.net/help/en/jAlbum/Preferences
found what/where -> font size change in a snap!

Edited by: wolf-skate on 30-Jun-2017 14:46
ah ok you found it now .. just saw your edit now .. BUT no, not change to window presentation style..just font size within darkula!
AndreWolff

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Re: 4K Res Laptops with Win10 don't handle elements well
Posted: 30-Jun-2017 15:09   in response to: wolf-skate in response to: wolf-skate
 
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Indeed changing the Font size with Windows Look and Feel shows no effect!
jGromit

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Re: 4K Res Laptops with Win10 don't handle elements well
Posted: 30-Jun-2017 15:12   in response to: AndreWolff in response to: AndreWolff
 
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AndreWolff wrote:
Indeed changing the Font size with Windows Look and Feel shows no effect!

It does if you change the font size, close jAlbum, and launch it again.
AndreWolff

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Re: 4K Res Laptops with Win10 don't handle elements well
Posted: 30-Jun-2017 15:18   in response to: jGromit in response to: jGromit
 
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jGromit wrote:
AndreWolff wrote:
Indeed changing the Font size with Windows Look and Feel shows no effect!

It does if you change the font size, close jAlbum, and launch it again.

I did launch it again, but even with the maximum font size 18, I can't edit a skin, see enclosed screen shot.
jGromit

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Re: 4K Res Laptops with Win10 don't handle elements well
Posted: 30-Jun-2017 15:22   in response to: AndreWolff in response to: AndreWolff
 
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With the editor open, choose View, Set Font Size.... And there's almost no limit on that setting. See screenshot, with the editor font size set to 32.
AndreWolff

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Re: 4K Res Laptops with Win10 don't handle elements well
Posted: 30-Jun-2017 15:29   in response to: jGromit in response to: jGromit
 
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jGromit wrote:
With the editor open, choose View, Set Font Size.... And there's almost no limit on that setting. See screenshot, with the editor font size set to 32.
Yes, indeed that is better, thanks for this hint.

But with the maximum Font size 18 in the Preferences window is the file list in the left pane unreadable and also the settings window shows problems, see enclosed screen shots.

Going back to font size 12 does not solve the problems,

Edited by: AndreWolff on 30-Jun-2017 15:37

Notice the text size of 250%(recommended) in the Scale and Lay-out group of the monitor settings (see MonitorSettings.png),
I think jAlbum should take that into account.

Edited by: AndreWolff on 30-Jun-2017 17:13
RobM

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Re: 4K Res Laptops with Win10 don't handle elements well
Posted: 30-Jun-2017 15:37   in response to: jGromit in response to: jGromit
 
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jGromit wrote:
AndreWolff wrote:
Indeed changing the Font size with Windows Look and Feel shows no effect!

It does if you change the font size, close jAlbum, and launch it again.

That is a change to how it worked in jAlbum 13, the new font size took effect straight away which is what the help page shows.
jGromit

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Re: 4K Res Laptops with Win10 don't handle elements well
Posted: 30-Jun-2017 15:40   in response to: RobM in response to: RobM
 
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RobM wrote:
That is a change to how it worked in jAlbum 13, the new font size took effect straight away which is what the help page shows.

Yeah, I thought I remembered that. I suspect that any "look and feel" changes without a re-launch are difficult to pull off - too much screen redrawing needs to be done. The font-size change probably needs a dialog box, like the L&F change.
davidekholm

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Re: 4K Res Laptops with Win10 don't handle elements well
Posted: 01-Jul-2017 23:02   in response to: jGromit in response to: jGromit
 
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This display problem for 4K screens is related to a Java bug that has been fixed in the upcoming Java 9. To run jAlbum properly on 4K screens, get the early Java 9 release from http://java.oracle.com, then run jAlbum via the .cmd file.
AndreWolff

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Re: 4K Res Laptops with Win10 don't handle elements well
Posted: 02-Jul-2017 13:12   in response to: davidekholm in response to: davidekholm
 
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davidekholm wrote:
then run jAlbum via the .cmd file.
?? What is the command? Please explain!
davidekholm

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Re: 4K Res Laptops with Win10 don't handle elements well
Posted: 02-Jul-2017 16:45   in response to: AndreWolff in response to: AndreWolff
 
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You're on Linux right? Then edit the .sh file so you point the "java" executable to the Java 9 beta
AndreWolff

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Re: 4K Res Laptops with Win10 don't handle elements well
Posted: 02-Jul-2017 20:49   in response to: davidekholm in response to: davidekholm
 
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davidekholm wrote:
You're on Linux right? Then edit the .sh file so you point the "java" executable to the Java 9 beta
No, i use only windows 10
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