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tomb

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Problem creating index page
Posted: 05-Mar-2009 17:24
 
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I seem to be missing something.

All of my image pages work correctly but although I've tried to
follow the directions in the manual to the letter I am not yet
able to create an index page to recognize the links to the
image pages.

Per the directions, I created shortcut links to the pages but
when I dragged them into the work area of the newly created
index page nothing....

What are the typical problems with this step....??

Tom
ctwist

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Re: Problem creating index page
Posted: 05-Mar-2009 17:40   in response to: tomb in response to: tomb
 
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I have not encountered this problem. Are any error messages shown?

You mentioned "links to the image pages". The links to the image pages (i.e. slide pages) are created automatically by Jalbum. You only need to create shortcuts to link to "index pages" outside of the album. Maybe you just used the wrong word.

The shortcut must be in the image directory. Move it to the image directory using Windows Explorer (or similar file manager).
tomb

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Re: Problem creating index page
Posted: 05-Mar-2009 21:47   in response to: ctwist in response to: ctwist
 
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Ah, I think I'm getting it, but what image directory?
All of the image pages are separate directories.

OK, let me be more specific. I created a shortcut to
index.html in the album folder of each image page.
I ceated that shortcut on the desktop. Then I opened
JAlbum with the Mirage skin, created a new project
and attempted to copy that shortcut into the new workspace.

What I get for a result is a vertical line in the top left
of the workspace. No link, no icon, no anything. If I
click within the workspace, even the vertical line goes
away.

Do I need to create a new image directory and move/copy
these shortcuts into it? Should the new directory be at
the same logical level as the other image directories or
should it be in a parent directory?

Would it be easier to use a text editor rather than the GUI?

I love the skin. I really do, but getting the index to work
is proving frustrating.... ;)

Tom
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Re: Problem creating index page
Posted: 05-Mar-2009 22:05   in response to: tomb in response to: tomb
 
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When you create a project, you identify its image directory. This is where Jalbum saves various files that are associated with the project. If you want to create a multi-level album, you need to create sub-folders within the image directory (and maybe sub-subfolders etc.). Each of these folders is associated with an index page in the generated album.

If this is unclear, you should read the tutorials and documentation on this site.

When you create a shortcut file, you must put it into one of the folders within this folder structure. Choose the appropriate folder to ensure that the shortcut will appear on the correct index page. It looks like you have created the shortcuts on the desktop; you must move these from the desktop into the image folders. Jalbum will then detect these shortcuts automatically; you don't need to "copy them into the workspace".
jGromit

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Re: Problem creating index page
Posted: 05-Mar-2009 22:11   in response to: ctwist in response to: ctwist
 
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And to view the Image Directory, from within Jalbum, choose Tools, Open Directories, Image Directory.
ctwist

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Re: Problem creating index page
Posted: 06-Mar-2009 04:04   in response to: tomb in response to: tomb
 
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Correction:

You should be able to "copy a shortcut into the workspace". I had never tried it, but it does work.

Next steps:
1) In the Album settings, verify that the "ignore pattern" is blank.
2) Which versions of Jalbum, Mirage and Java you are using? If Mirage is older than version 5, install the latest version and try it again.
3) Which operating system are you using?
4) You said "What I get for a result is a vertical line in the top left of the workspace. No link, no icon, no anything." However, dragging files into the workspace is base Jalbum functionality; Mirage is not active when you do this. What is the creation date of "Jalbum\system\filetypes.xml"?
ctwist

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Re: Problem creating index page
Posted: 06-Mar-2009 14:41   in response to: tomb in response to: tomb
 
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One more question.

If you are running Jalbum 8.2.3 (i.e. the latest version), did you install it on top of an older version? If you did, what was the previous version?

If you can answer these questions, I can probably suggest how to move forward.
tomb

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Re: Problem creating index page
Posted: 06-Mar-2009 17:24   in response to: ctwist in response to: ctwist
 
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Answers to questions....

Copying into the workspace is what the manual suggests.

1 - The "Ignore Pattern seems to be a mirage setting rather than a JAlbum setting.
It is set to the default value \.*

2 - JAlbum 8.2.3 Installed over 8.1.19 without deleting 8.1.19
Mirage 5.3
Java 1.6.0_04

3 - Windows XP Current patch level maintained with Microsoft update service

4 - Thursday, October 16, 2008, 2:17:52 PM

I cannot get over the feeling that I'm overlooking something fundamental.
Although I have used JAlbum to create my image pages for some time I
have always managed the indexes manually.

My directory structure is such that all of the pages live in separate directories
at the same index level. I had intended to create the index page at the same
directory level but in a new directory "Index". Perhaps it will need to be in the
parent directory?

Tom
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Re: Problem creating index page
Posted: 06-Mar-2009 19:06   in response to: tomb in response to: tomb
 
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tomb wrote:
Copying into the workspace is what the manual suggests.
In mirage.doc section 7.4, I state "Move the shortcut to the folder that contains your project’s image files." I could have worded it better. I meant move it to the project's image directory or one of its sub-folders. However, as I stated earlier, I don't think this is the cause of your problem.
1 - The "Ignore Pattern seems to be a mirage setting rather than a JAlbum setting.
It is set to the default value \.*
This is not a Mirage setting. I'm not an expert on regular expressions, but this doesn't look right. I usually use an empty ignore pattern. The Jalbum default pattern is \..*
Try removing this, and then refresh the workspace.
2 - JAlbum 8.2.3 Installed over 8.1.19 without deleting 8.1.19
Mirage 5.3
Java 1.6.0_04
The Jalbum 8.2.3 installer doesn't replace some of the files; a few people (including myself) have had problems with this. Try uninstalling Jalbum and re-installing 8.2.3; instructions are in the 4th posting in this thread http://jalbum.net/forum/thread.jspa?messageID=190607 . Alternatively, you may prefer to wait for the next update (presumably 8.2.4) which should be available tomorrow.

The latest version of Java is 1.6.0_12. I recommend that you should upgrade; a lot of bugs have been fixed. After installing this, uninstall 1.6.0_04 and any other older versions; this will ensure that you are using the latest version.
3 - Windows XP Current patch level maintained with Microsoft update service
That's the same as I am using. I wanted to make sure you are not using an untested O/S.
4 - Thursday, October 16, 2008, 2:17:52 PM
This is correct (an older version of this file would have caused your problem).

One more thing to check: In each folder within your project, there is a file named albumfiles.txt. Is the shortcut file listed in here? This will help me to isolate the point of failure.
ctwist

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Re: Problem creating index page
Posted: 06-Mar-2009 19:14   in response to: tomb in response to: tomb
 
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tomb wrote:
Although I have used JAlbum to create my image pages for some time I
have always managed the indexes manually.

My directory structure is such that all of the pages live in separate directories
at the same index level. I had intended to create the index page at the same
directory level but in a new directory "Index". Perhaps it will need to be in the
parent directory?

There are no restrictions here.
tomb

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Re: Problem creating index page
Posted: 06-Mar-2009 22:24   in response to: tomb in response to: tomb
 
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You have mentioned a couple of times ta\hat the shortcuts
should be in the "image directory"

Is that the image directory for the page of images which
correspond to the shortcut's target or an image directory
which would be associated with the new index page. I
presumed the later and have tried that.

I copied the shortcuts to a new directory and in JAlbum
opened that directory to find the source objects for the
new page. Nothing!

For now, I'll update Java and delete the entry in the ignore
pattern. The difference between \. and \.. is probably my
reading of the screen. I'm not an expert at regular expressions
either so I usually leave them strictly alone unless I've created
them myself... If that is a JAlbum setting and not a skin
setting why is it found in the skin tab?

Maybe updating Java or eliminating that regular expression
will have some effect...

Tom
tomb

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Re: Problem creating index page
Posted: 07-Mar-2009 00:20   in response to: ctwist in response to: ctwist
 
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I cleared the ignore pattern field
and I upgraded my JRE without
changing any observed behavior.

Tom

Edited by: tomb on 07-Mar-2009 05:12

ctwist

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Re: Problem creating index page
Posted: 07-Mar-2009 17:12   in response to: tomb in response to: tomb
 
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tomb wrote:
You have mentioned a couple of times that the shortcuts
should be in the "image directory"

Is that the image directory for the page of images which
correspond to the shortcut's target or an image directory
which would be associated with the new index page.

"Image Directory" is a Jalbum term. A better name would be "Project Directory". In early versions of Jalbum, this contained all the images, but now it is possible to link to the images, so that the image directory may contain no images.

This directory is identified in the Jalbum settings. On the General tab, click on "Change Directory Locations".
ctwist

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Re: Problem creating index page
Posted: 07-Mar-2009 17:14   in response to: tomb in response to: tomb
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As we discussed offline, this problem is because your shortcuts are Windows shortcuts (.lnk) instead of Internet shortcuts (.url). You need to recreate the shortcuts correctly.

However, I should be able to add support for Windows shortcuts; these will be easier to use. Watch out for this in future Mirage releases.

Edited by: ctwist on 07-Mar-2009 12:34
tomb

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Re: Problem creating index page
Posted: 07-Mar-2009 20:28   in response to: ctwist in response to: ctwist
 
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I don't spend a lot of time on the JAlbum web site but I am
watching this thread. When you update Mirage, if you
mention it on this thread I'll be sure to catch it...

Thanks again for all the assistance!

Tom
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