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davidekholm

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Include originals for selected images
Posted: 28-Jun-2008 23:56
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Want to make your album images printable? Many Jalbum skins already allow you to add print links to the images. These links take the album viewer straight into the shopping cart of an online printing service. For the best quality one should include originals with the album. However this usually makes your album grow dramatically in size. Usually you only want to make your best 10% images printable anyway. Well, with Jalbum 8 you can now include originals for a selected set of images only. Ideal for making those best wedding, kid or vacation shots available for printing by your friends and relatives. Just right-click the images to include originals for and tick that checkbox. If you later change your mind, untick the checkbox and Jalbum will take care of removing the copy of the original from your album.
mrag

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Re: Include originals for selected images
Posted: 29-Jun-2008 06:25   in response to: davidekholm in response to: davidekholm
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Absolutely incredible and practical idea.

How does the finished album indicate a specific original is available? In a sample ShowOff album, I checked 3 of 10 photos to include the original. I can tell which ones they are by hovering my mouse over them and seeing a "hand" (link to original), but is there another (more obvious) way? There must be some snippet like;
<IF original exists, then insert print image here, ELSE skip>

that could be used in a skin.

Are my advanced coding skills evident here?
davidekholm

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Re: Include originals for selected images
Posted: 01-Jul-2008 12:04   in response to: mrag in response to: mrag
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You can write:
<ja:if exists="originalPath">
   indicate the existence of an original image for printing here
</ja:if>


Now, if image linking is set to "Link to originals", the originalPath will never be declared as the imagePath points to the original image, but in that case all images are originals, and there is not much point to indicate this by a specific icon.
mrag

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Re: Include originals for selected images
Posted: 02-Jul-2008 09:21   in response to: davidekholm in response to: davidekholm
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Thanks. i was almost actually pretty close on the code ;-)
dhina

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Re: Include originals for selected images
Posted: 09-Jul-2008 20:04   in response to: davidekholm in response to: davidekholm
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Great feature but it'll be really nice if there is a seperate variable set if 'Include Originals' is selected. Idea is to use original image as a replacement for the slide in scenario like panorama.
davidekholm

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Re: Include originals for selected images
Posted: 10-Jul-2008 22:09   in response to: dhina in response to: dhina
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There is (sorry for not saying). You can write:
<ja:if exists="includeOriginal">Original exists</ja:if>
dhina

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Re: Include originals for selected images
Posted: 11-Jul-2008 09:59   in response to: davidekholm in response to: davidekholm
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Fantastic! Thanks for including this feature.
mrag

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Re: Include originals for selected images
Posted: 26-Aug-2008 16:09   in response to: davidekholm in response to: davidekholm
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<ja:if exists="originalPath">
   indicate the existence of an original image for printing here
</ja:if>


Assuming I have an Image Directory and a separate Output directory, and have incorporated the above code and by default select "Link to Scaled down images only." : If I select an original to be included, I then must go to the Navigation tab and also check "Copy Originals" to find a copy of that original in my Output directory when I make the album. It does seem that only the selected image is copied, but that second step is required.

Is there some code that can go with the above to 'automatically' check "Copy Originals" in that instance to cover selected images?

Since this is probably an extra slow week for you, I thought I'd bring this topic up again ;-)
It would seem if I individually select an original or two via the right click option, Jalbum would automatically know to "Copy Originals."

Edited by: mrag on 03-Dec-2008 16:28

mrag

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Re: Include originals for selected images
Posted: 04-Oct-2009 01:28   in response to: mrag in response to: mrag
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Maybe I'm the only one fond of this feature, but would another icon across the top help? It also seems "copy originals" is now automatically sensed. Since you can "rotate left or right" either by icon on top or right click, why not include original. A thought anyway.


Edited by: mrag on 03-Oct-2009 19:28
davidekholm

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Re: Include originals for selected images
Posted: 05-Oct-2009 15:07   in response to: mrag in response to: mrag
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You're pointing out a problem that many users don't investigate what's under the right click menu. What if hovering a thumbnail in jalbum reveals, not just an "Edit" button, but also buttons for including originals and for "Use as folder thumbnail"?
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Re: Include originals for selected images
Posted: 05-Oct-2009 15:38   in response to: davidekholm in response to: davidekholm
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I'd vote for the "Use as folder thumbnail" option, because that's something that a lot of users want (based on how often the question gets asked in here), and folder thumbnails are supported by most skins.

I don't have the same feeling about "Include original." I'll wager that most users don't understand what that does, or what it's for, and most skins don't really have a built-in way to make use of the feature.
davidekholm

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Re: Include originals for selected images
Posted: 05-Oct-2009 17:33   in response to: EarlyOut in response to: EarlyOut
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Supplying originals with albums is a great way to have the images print better + you get a backup of your originals. I wish this was a more used option.
EarlyOut

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Re: Include originals for selected images
Posted: 05-Oct-2009 19:03   in response to: davidekholm in response to: davidekholm
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What is this "printing" thing of which you speak? ;)

(Confession - my only printer is a small b&w laser.)
mrag

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Re: Include originals for selected images
Posted: 05-Oct-2009 19:15   in response to: davidekholm in response to: davidekholm
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ShowLite makes use of "Include Originals" with a download icon when image selected. Might be nice to somehow combine Include originals with Shutterfly, etc. Now you have to have download option AND print option. Printing (originals) probably belongs in a widget IMHO.

Back to original issue-hover would work for me. I just saw "empty space" along the top row and thought since you can rotate an image there why not include original (which then would also permit a 'tool tip' on what it does). I see that now if you select an original, the original is automatically copied to the album. That's a change from the beginning-before you also had to check 'copy originals.'

I'd go along with about anything on "Use as album folder." Right now I get confused AFTER I have already selected a thumbnail to represent a folder, how to unselect it? I'd like something simple like: check box to say, check to include as folder thumbnail, uncheck to exclude as folder thumbnail.
mrag

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Re: Include originals for selected images
Posted: 31-Oct-2009 22:12   in response to: mrag in response to: mrag
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I am having some trouble getting around the axle so to speak.

If I select (via right click, edit window) "Include Original" for an individual (or more) image(s) it appears that I ALSO have to manually then check "Settings > Pages > Copy originals" to have these selected originals included in any final album.

Isn't Jalbum smart enough to know I've selected an original that should be included with the album AND uploaded with the album when published? Why is that second step required to "Copy originals" or did I miss some message on this?

As an alternative, since I can check to see if an individual original is selected, is there some code that I could include that says to 'include original' if I've already selected an original to be included?

I'm currently using:

<ja:if exists="originalPath">
<a class="origSlide" href="${originalPath}" target="_blank"><img src="${resPath}/download.gif" alt="available" title="original"></a>
</ja:if>


Edited by: mrag on 31-Oct-2009 17:13
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